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Old 11-25-2010, 07:35 PM
 
Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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not really. transit cannot effectively meet the needs of atlanta's current commuting patterns - they are just too random and sporadic, and the costs of implement something that would only partially fit the needs of our current development style are just too great for most of our tea party supporting metro.

density supports transit and vice versa, and atlanta's suburban employment "centers" (outside cumberland and perimeter center) are just too sporadically developed to function all that well with transit. alpharetta is a great example - tying all of that lowrise office space together would require it's own system, without considering joining it up to any other employment or housing centers. (or north springs marta) office workers aren't going to be willing to walk the great distances required to make transit viable up there, especially not in the heat of our summers...

So many atlantans don't realize what a goldmine we have in marta's heavy rail system. toronto, only slightly larger than us but many times denser, gets four times the ridership on their rail system with fewer miles of track. (would be the third highest ridership of any city, just below DC with half the miles of track (!!!) if within the US)

developers in atlanta need to concentrate around our existing rail system if we expect to move forward any with transit in the area. we need more TODs with sufficient "work/play" stuff like what exists near Lindbergh, but literally part of the development and not across the street and through a massive lot)

the suburbs of atlanta basically treat marta as the nation's most expensive commuter rail system, when it should and could be so much more.
Express bus service seems to be working too. I know the Express station parking lot in Hiram is filled with cars everyday because I drive by it all the time.
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Old 11-25-2010, 10:53 PM
 
Location: Marietta, GA
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not really. transit cannot effectively meet the needs of atlanta's current commuting patterns - they are just too random and sporadic, and the costs of implement something that would only partially fit the needs of our current development style are just too great for most of our tea party supporting metro.

density supports transit and vice versa, and atlanta's suburban employment "centers" (outside cumberland and perimeter center) are just too sporadically developed to function all that well with transit. alpharetta is a great example - tying all of that lowrise office space together would require it's own system, without considering joining it up to any other employment or housing centers. (or north springs marta) office workers aren't going to be willing to walk the great distances required to make transit viable up there, especially not in the heat of our summers...

So many atlantans don't realize what a goldmine we have in marta's heavy rail system. toronto, only slightly larger than us but many times denser, gets four times the ridership on their rail system with fewer miles of track. (would be the third highest ridership of any city, just below DC with half the miles of track (!!!) if within the US)

developers in atlanta need to concentrate around our existing rail system if we expect to move forward any with transit in the area. we need more TODs with sufficient "work/play" stuff like what exists near Lindbergh, but literally part of the development and not across the street and through a massive lot)

the suburbs of atlanta basically treat marta as the nation's most expensive commuter rail system, when it should and could be so much more.
The issue is simple. MARTA as currently setup is a hub and spoke system that does a good job of feeding bus routes to rail to go downtown. The problem with that is that based on statistics (see a previous thread where the details were discussed) a small percentage of suburban commuters actually go downtown.

Much of the traffic and congestion is intra-suburban or inter-suburb, and extending MARTA heavy rail lines to downtown will do little to mitigate that issue.
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Old 11-28-2010, 06:57 AM
 
Location: Smyrna, GA (via CLT from CAK)
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Atlanta's problem is that the majority of jobs are located where transit is not available. Alot of people do not like Marta and choose not to take it. The vast majority don't have that option in the first place. Wider roads will do nothing at all. Atlanta will keep growing and more cars will jam up those roads too. I agree with the poster who said transit is our only real option in trying to abate the massive gridlock around Metro Atlanta.
Couldn't agree more!!

A good mass transit system is something that could only help. Not saying its the end all - but come on, it will only improve traffic.
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Old 11-28-2010, 07:25 AM
 
Location: Smyrna, GA (via CLT from CAK)
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How bad is the traffic during the day? How about weekends?
Are they planning to build any tunnels to solve the traffic problems?
To help answer your question – I commute from Smyrna to Sandy Springs (glen lake parkway) via 285 during the week and we also keep our boat off exit 16 on 400. So we have made that trek more than a few times in our six months living here during the weekend.

Traffic gets worse as you get later in the week (no clue why). Monday and Tuesday are manageable and Wednesday starts to get more stop and go. Thursday can get pretty bad and Friday s are miserable. I try and leave on average 6:30 a.m. and seem to land at my desk at 7:00ish (this seems to be consistent day in day out). Leaving looks like this: 4 – 4:30 = 20 - 25 min ride home, 5 – 6 = 35 – 1 hr & 6 – 6:30 = 30 – 35 mins. All this keeping in mind what day it is.

I have never ran into any issues during the weekends both going to the lake and going in town.
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