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View Poll Results: Do you think Atlanta Metro will surpass Philadelphia Metro by 2015?
Yes 50 63.29%
No 27 34.18%
Other (Please specify) 2 2.53%
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Old 11-27-2010, 11:46 PM
 
Location: ITP - City of Atlanta Proper
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It's only a matter of time before it happens, not an "if".

I am also of the mind that our MSA is likely already larger than Philly's MSA. The one thing you can not get from population estimates in high growth areas is an accurate accounting of how many people are really there. It is literally a guess. Chances are we are several hundred thousands residents ahead already. We'll know for sure in a few weeks when the official count comes in.
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Old 11-28-2010, 12:11 AM
 
Location: metro ATL
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Within 25 years Atlanta will have about 12.3 million people and it will be the 3rd largest metro in the country behind #2 Los Angeles at 14 million and Dallas-Ft Worth at a whopping 18 million. New York will fall to 4th.
No.
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Old 11-28-2010, 01:29 AM
 
Location: ITP - City of Atlanta Proper
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No.
Yeah, even in the most rosy scenario, adding 7 million people to a metro in 25 years would be near impossible if not completely insane. Hell, in the last 25 years Atlanta has added a little over 3 million and the change has been quite drastic. A 12 million+ Atlanta in that time frame would be beyond nuts.

With in 25 years, it is far more likely that metro Atlanta will have between 8 and 9 million residents and look more like Chicago or Toronto rather than Tokyo or New York.

As for Dallas being the biggest city in the country by then....yeah, not happening . LOL
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Old 11-28-2010, 03:57 AM
 
Location: Las Vegas
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imho, atlanta was great at 3.5 to 4 million. (late 80's to late 90's) 5 million its barely ok. when it hits 7 million it will be a disaster. cant picture 9 to 10 million would be like.

Lets look at nashvile that area is going to reach greatness at probably 2.5 mill. anything more would not be fiting for that area given its structure and culture.

Chicago at 5 million would be a ghost town. think a larger st louis. st louis with 5 mil would be thriving.

This is how I see it. sorry if this offends anyone.
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Old 11-28-2010, 09:08 AM
 
Location: Marietta, GA
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Georgia is actually larger than New Jersey and not much smaller than Michigan.
Georgia is actually the largest state east of the Mississippi River in terms of area, and bigger than all but the largest states in the country terms of population (CA, TX, NY, FL, IL, PA, OH, MI)

We'll see how the 2010 census comes out, but the 2009 population estimates place GA at #9, just below Michigan, with Michigan losing population daily and GA continuing to gain population.
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Old 11-28-2010, 01:00 PM
 
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imho, atlanta was great at 3.5 to 4 million. (late 80's to late 90's) 5 million its barely ok. when it hits 7 million it will be a disaster. cant picture 9 to 10 million would be like.
Atlanta may rise to meet the challenge but you raise a valid point. Bigger does not necessarily equal better or more urban. Smaller cities can be more agile and more adapted to their populations. There are many examples but just look at places like Austin and Portland.

Here's an interesting article on the subject.

The Rise of the Efficient City | Newgeography.com
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Old 11-28-2010, 03:44 PM
 
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Yes Danny yes, YES, YES! We can practically smell the cheesesteaks in the distance.

*Waits for Kidphilly or Koolaid's rebuttal*
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Old 11-28-2010, 10:20 PM
 
Location: Austin, TX/Chicago, IL/Houston, TX/Washington, DC
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Yes Danny yes, YES, YES! We can practically smell the cheesesteaks in the distance.

*Waits for Kidphilly or Koolaid's rebuttal*
Atlanta is on que (given present trends of the last 3 months) to receive over 100,000 people in a year span again.

Which means the estimated time to take over Philadelphia (LOL) is T-Minus 3 years and 6 months. LOL! The way things are going, we wont even have to wait 2 extra years until 2015!

Ah yes, so technically the Top 10 in 2015 will look like this:
- New York City MSA
- Los Angeles MSA
- Chicago MSA
- Dallas-Fort Worth MSA
- Houston MSA
- Atlanta MSA

- Philadelphia MSA
- Miami-Fort Lauderdale MSA
- Washington DC MSA
- Phoenix MSA (newcomer replacing Boston MSA)

The Top 10 List in 2015 will be a total Sunbelt takeover. Los Angeles, Dallas-Fort Worth, Houston, Atlanta, Miami-Fort Lauderdale, & Phoenix. Equaling to 6 Sunbelt Metropolitan Areas in the Top 10.

Philadelphia is losing major ground.
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Old 11-29-2010, 08:55 AM
 
Location: Las Vegas
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Atlanta may rise to meet the challenge but you raise a valid point. Bigger does not necessarily equal better or more urban. Smaller cities can be more agile and more adapted to their populations. There are many examples but just look at places like Austin and Portland.

Here's an interesting article on the subject.

The Rise of the Efficient City | Newgeography.com
I think your one of the first people to see what Ive been trying to communicate on CD. I think it would be kind of cool if Atlanta could rise to the occasion. It will be nice to have a warmer urban alternative to Chicago or even New York City.
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Old 02-22-2011, 09:45 PM
 
Location: Austin, TX/Chicago, IL/Houston, TX/Washington, DC
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Regardless of what the US Census results will state in the next few weeks for Atlanta, it is poised to surpass Philadelphia MSA within 5 years of time either way and CSA by 2020.

How are all of you feeling about the Census results expected to come out soon? Anyone nervous about what it could be?
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