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Old 11-28-2010, 02:27 PM
 
Location: Midtown Atlanta
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There's a discussion going on over at the Skyscraper Page Forum about NIMBYism in Atlanta. I saw this comment and found it interesting, and I want to see what you guys think about it:

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There's some entitlement culture here with intown homeowners. Homeowners, especially those in the neighborhoods of pricey bungalows, believe that the city has an obligation to protect their property values above all else -- even if it means derailing projects that would benefit the entire city in the long run.
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Have NIMBYs killed projects that would have been better for the city as a whole?

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Old 11-28-2010, 02:30 PM
 
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Yes, The Emory/North Druid Hills MARTA Line
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Old 11-28-2010, 02:36 PM
 
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Boy you havn't seen NIMBY'ism until you've lived in Nashville. Atlanta seems tame by comparison.
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Old 11-28-2010, 02:58 PM
 
Location: Midtown Atlanta
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Yes, The Emory/North Druid Hills MARTA Line
Was that because they didn't want to go through the construction or were there reservations about having a MARTA train station in the neighborhood?
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Old 11-28-2010, 06:00 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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Definitely....the fence peeking control freaks who are taking over homeowners associations & towns like Dunwoody & enacting unconstitutional ordiances have to go! Run them out of town with old cars & loud music.
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Old 11-28-2010, 06:33 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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Good luck with that. The State Legislature is full of NIMBYs & their supporters. There are ordinances against loud music and the APD/Dekalb Police/GA State Patrol will enforce those with a vengeance.

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Definitely....the fence peeking control freaks who are taking over homeowners associations & towns like Dunwoody & enacting unconstitutional ordiances have to go! Run them out of town with old cars & loud music.
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Old 11-28-2010, 06:41 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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They're welcome to enforce it, but unless there's a time & decibel level, it's simply unconstitutionally vague. Dunwoody's noise ordiance is case in point. If it's loud enough to bother someone, it's too loud.

Nice try NIMBY's but that's like putting up speed limit signs that read. "It is unlawful to drive so fast that other drivers are bothered by it." - that kind of nonsense won't fly in court.
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Old 11-28-2010, 06:46 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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That's why most police in Georgia usually try to slam you with as many offences as possible. Things like driving over the speed limit, failure to maintain the lane, failure to use signal, failure to yield.

Usually something sticks and the result is that the person ticketed will leave the area to avoid further harrassment.

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They're welcome to enforce it, but unless there's a time & decibel level, it's simply unconstitutionally vague. Dunwoody's noise ordiance is case in point. If it's loud enough to bother someone, it's too loud.

Nice try NIMBY's but that's like putting up speed limit signs that read. "It is unlawful to drive so fast that other drivers are bothered by it." - that kind of nonsense won't fly in court.
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Old 11-30-2010, 10:36 AM
 
Location: Johns Creek, GA
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There's a discussion going on over at the Skyscraper Page Forum about NIMBYism in Atlanta. I saw this comment and found it interesting, and I want to see what you guys think about it:

reet:

There's some entitlement culture here with intown homeowners. Homeowners, especially those in the neighborhoods of pricey bungalows, believe that the city has an obligation to protect their property values above all else -- even if it means derailing projects that would benefit the entire city in the long run.
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Have NIMBYs killed projects that would have been better for the city as a whole?

There's always power in numbers!
The question is, "at what cost?" Who benefits the most (private enterprise, government)? Where does the money come from (private funding, taxpayers)? Everyone wants to retain value/grow their value in their investment.
"...[they] believe the city has an obligation to protect property values above all else"- I personally don't take this stance but, I would say it's within the top five.
It's a democratic process with a representative government- if you don't respect the will of the people- the people will elect someone else (I think we just saw this very thing on Nov. 2).
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Old 11-30-2010, 11:21 AM
 
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I think the reigning philosophy is that owners wish to preserve or raise their property values and will usually oppose developments that have the potential to lower them. Taken at face value this makes sense to most people. With things like possible MARTA rails this is a big debate. Realistically who would want to live under a train rail ? I wouldn't.

Now I noticed that when Decatur became the hot place to live many of the newer residents bitterly opposed the condo developments that kept popping up (as they did everywhere) by trotting out the "it doesn't preserve the look and feel of the neighborhood" when a more honest statement was that the nearby condos would diminish their property value. Call it what it is - don't suddenly claim an intimate knowledge of an area (that you really know little about ) or an unusually high sensitivity to historic aesthetics when all you really care about is keeping your resell value as high as possible. Most people will understand the more honest approach. To be fair there *are* people who do know lots about their neighborhood and maybe do have an appreciation for the different types of wood used to build their bungalow but its much rarer than people would have you believe.
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