The effect hip-hop has had on Atlanta... (live, move to)

[Gnutella]

To me, the only difference between Southern hip-hop and East-Coast hip-hop is that the East Coast guys have a level of sophistication to their material excess that the Southern guys don't. East Coast rappers will blow their fortunes on expensive European consumer products while Southern rappers will blow their fortunes on rims, chains and strip clubs.

The West Coast rappers seem to be the most down-to-earth of the bunch. I never saw Dr. Dre or Snoop Dogg taking Mediterranean cruises, club-hopping in London or Hong Kong, or buying expensive designer suits. They'd just roll down the street, smoke Indo and sip on gin and juice. Also, they seemed to be more into using drugs than selling drugs.

[loublaze]

Originally Posted by Gnutella

To me, the only difference between Southern hip-hop and East-Coast hip-hop is that the East Coast guys have a level of sophistication to their material excess that the Southern guys don't. East Coast rappers will blow their fortunes on expensive European consumer products while Southern rappers will blow their fortunes on rims, chains and strip clubs.

The West Coast rappers seem to be the most down-to-earth of the bunch. I never saw Dr. Dre or Snoop Dogg taking Mediterranean cruises, club-hopping in London or Hong Kong, or buying expensive designer suits. They'd just roll down the street, smoke Indo and sip on gin and juice. Also, they seemed to be more into using drugs than selling drugs.

This post is so ill informed I don't even know where to begin! Snoop was banned from travelling to London several times for smoking weed at concerts and he's travelled to Amsterdam several times in his career. It doesn't matter what coast they come from..individuals do their own thing

[arjay57]

I hate to even admit this because it shows how ancient I am but I thought people like Digital Underground and Tone Loc were terrific. They used irony and self-deprecation but they still had plenty of swagger and style. And great live beats, too.

[Gnutella]

Originally Posted by loublaze

This post is so ill informed I don't even know where to begin! Snoop was banned from travelling to London several times for smoking weed at concerts and he's travelled to Amsterdam several times in his career. It doesn't matter what coast they come from..individuals do their own thing

I didn't mean to imply that they never did, just that they never boasted about it in their songs, or otherwise publicized what they did in their spare time. The East Coast guys always struck me as publicity hounds compared to the West Coast guys.

[AlGreen]

Originally Posted by Gnutella

To me, the only difference between Southern hip-hop and East-Coast hip-hop is that the East Coast guys have a level of sophistication to their material excess that the Southern guys don't. East Coast rappers will blow their fortunes on expensive European consumer products while Southern rappers will blow their fortunes on rims, chains and strip clubs.

Don't know exactly who you've been listening to, but that's not really true, in my opinion. You'll hear southern rappers talking about things like foreign cars, Patek Philippe watches, Purple Label this and Ferragamo that. It really depends on their wealth as far as what luxuries are in their reach.

The more fame and money they see, the more "sophisticated" they become.

[El-Guapo]

Originally Posted by arjay57

I hate to even admit this because it shows how ancient I am but I thought people like Digital Underground and Tone Loc were terrific. They used irony and self-deprecation but they still had plenty of swagger and style. And great live beats, too.

Your observations are spot on. You could tell these guys were intelligent by their wittiness and wordplay. That music was actually more mainstream than the noise they put out now. You still hear it in mostly white clubs.

[srschirm]

Originally Posted by AlGreen

How can you say that about Tupac considering the man he was? He was a poet, and while a little troubled, still one of the greatest minds of our generation. And negative? He did a lot more for his community than Biggie Smalls ever did. I'm not speaking ill of the dead, but that's the truth.

If Tupac Shakur is one of the greatest minds of our generation, we're in deep ****.

[King_X]

Originally Posted by Aceter

Wacklanta represents the worst in hip hop at the moment hands down. In stark contrast, New Orleans is making a buzz among real heads nationally at the moment. With artists like Dee 1, Curren$y, Jay Elect, Nesby Phips, K Gates, The Show, Ceasar Parkway, Dappa, Dizzy, Slangston Hughes, Lyrical Genius, Jeaux, Kidd Kidd Truth Universal etc... among the up and comers, you can argue that New Orleans is very much poised to turn the tide against the trash that has infected hip hop in recent years.

Originally Posted by Aceter

Forgot about Trademark da Skydiver and Young Roddy from N.O. who form the JETS with Curren$y.

How can one argue that "New Orleans is very much poised to turn the tide against the trash that has infected hip hop in recent years." just because you named a bunch of rappers the general public hasnt heard of? I've only heard of Curren$y, Kidd Kidd, and Trademark The Skydiver (only because of like 1 mixtape) out of the guys you named, and I say this as an avid mixtape/underground follower.

Most major cities and states could run off a list of their "lyrical" rappers that, generally speaking, nobody have really heard of. So that doesnt make New Orleans special or anything. Example? ATL has Stat Quo, B.O.B, Bobby Creekwater, Al Gator, Donnis, Translee, Outkast, Killer Mike, and Cee-lo still making music and Goodie Mob have work in the making. That list of ATL rappers I named is more widely known than whoever 75% of those N.O. underground rappers you named.

I tried to find something on some of those guys you named. I saw like one vid pop up for "Slangston Hughes" on youtube, then the Caesar guy has some mixtape on datpiff with 150 listens lol. You think ATL (or anywhere else) doesnt have random unknown rappers that come with a more "real hip hop" approach?

[AlGreen]

Originally Posted by srschirm

If Tupac Shakur is one of the greatest minds of our generation, we're in deep ****.

Hm, well everyone's entitled to their opinion.

[SaintTaris]

Originally Posted by League54

I don't like the effect of hip hop on Atlanta. Far to many low class people identify with hip hop and aspire to live out the hip hop image in real life.

I can't remember the last hip hop song I heard promoting education and finding ways to gentrify communities and neighborhoods.

To many people justify hip hop as reporting things that are already going on..but fail to realize that poorly educated people emulate what they hear about in other low class communities.

I agree.
Today's rap music is garbage. I agree, there are no songs about positivity. It's all about, I go to the club, drink ________ Liquor, I see a girl, I walk over to her, we leave the club in___________ car and we go back to my place and chill in the hottub, where I pour ________ champagne all over her, then she drinks my babies.

I listened to Special Ed this morning on the way to work wondering to myself, what happened to this kind of music, the kind when or rap that was for the most part clean and clever. I was in High School, wearing a flat top, blasting Special Ed, MC Lyte, PE, and BDP through a Punch 45 and 12" woofers.