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Old 03-22-2011, 08:47 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Mishap View Post
^The socioeconomic position of certain Asian races in the US is skewed at best. Sure a lot more of us go to college here and do well in K-12 but run the numbers on how we immigrated in the first place. A much larger percentage of Asians in the last few generations have come as a result of education opportunities and more recently due to immigration policies for professional workers. If we started allowing mass immigration for anyone that could break 1400 on the SAT(old scale...who cares about writing), you'd have all US citizens crowded out of all colleges within a few years. At the same time, if you started immigrating randomly from Asia, you'd have a far different/lower numbers. Despite India's fiercely competitive reputation for having very driven and intelligent students, they don't even have 70% literacy rate in India and the % there w/ college degrees(not necessarily good college degrees of course) is less than half that of the US. By gross numbers, they have more people that can't read than the US has people. Of course our immigration policy distills all of that down to their very best and brightest and their progeny is what you find in our colleges.

If you're going into the stats of overrepresented minorities in certain schools you really need to look at the average income of the families sending these kids into school and income per education years. Asians in the US have a far higher % graduate degrees than the population but their median income is slightly higher (suggesting some remaining language barrier/racism issues).

Many studies out there have closely correlated household income w/ education attainment. If you're financially stable enough to focus on your kids education, then they tend to do ok. When normalized for income, you see smaller gaps between races. The UC system gets skewed by parachute kids...kids shipped to the US to improve their chances of going to good schools and bypassing relatively strict systems in Asia. Imagine the resources necessary to pull off shipping your kid abroad to go to middle/hs so they have a shot at a good college. My alma mater didn't provide scholarships/aid to international students so those that showed up had resources for 40-50k/yr and most didn't bat an eye to that. Compare that to the kids at your local private school that's costing 10-20k/yr for HS and I'm sure you'll see similar levels of attainment.

So yeah, Asians aren't necessarily superior...they just are in the US b/c our gov't policy causes those w/ significant resources or educational capability to make it over here. The gov't just doesn't have to deal w/ the illiterate masses left behind.

Perfectly and succinctly explained very well.
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