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Unread 04-21-2011, 11:39 AM
 
Location: Midtown Atlanta
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If you're going to respond to posts without reading them fully, you should at least delete the parts you didn't read before quoting. The part you didn't read talked about how total number of jobs is more important the unemployment rate, due to the exact reason you are talking about (change in the workforce size).

As I said, the state gained 15,600 jobs last month. That's a 0.4% increase in total employment over last month.

The bolded is false. People are considered unemployed if they are actively seeking work. If they aren't, they are removed from the workforce. If you are on unemployment, then you re counted as unemployed, but you can be counted as unemployed if you aren't receiving unemployment.
Not sure that's exactly right. I checked the Bureau of Labor Statistics and receiving unemployment benefits doesn't appear to be a factor in whether you're considered unemployed or not in the work force. Perhaps I read it too quickly and didn't notice what you have pointed out.
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Unread 04-21-2011, 12:15 PM
 
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Not sure that's exactly right. I checked the Bureau of Labor Statistics and receiving unemployment benefits doesn't appear to be a factor in whether you're considered unemployed or not in the work force. Perhaps I read it too quickly and didn't notice what you have pointed out.
Ah, I was under the impression that in order to get UE benefits you had to be actively seeking work, which means you would be counted in unemployment stats. Definitely possible there is some case where you can get UE benefits and not be considered unemployed.

But just because you are not getting UE benefits anymore doesn't mean you are automatically removed from UE stats, certainly, which is the suggestion I was responding to.
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Unread 04-21-2011, 12:50 PM
 
Location: Midtown Atlanta
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Ah, I was under the impression that in order to get UE benefits you had to be actively seeking work, which means you would be counted in unemployment stats. Definitely possible there is some case where you can get UE benefits and not be considered unemployed.

But just because you are not getting UE benefits anymore doesn't mean you are automatically removed from UE stats, certainly, which is the suggestion I was responding to.
Based on my reading of the explanation, you're right. It's actually pretty darn complicated, if you have an interest in checking it out on their web site. No wonder the government has such a deficit when it takes pages to define "unemployed." Geez!
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Unread 04-21-2011, 02:41 PM
 
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Based on my reading of the explanation, you're right. It's actually pretty darn complicated, if you have an interest in checking it out on their web site. No wonder the government has such a deficit when it takes pages to define "unemployed." Geez!
Haha yeah, and then even with all of that studying and so forth it only counts like ~2/3 of the people one would actually think of by the term 'unemployed'--someone who wants to work but isn't working. Throngs of discouraged workers don't get counted at all.
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Unread 04-21-2011, 09:54 PM
 
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Well I was told by some people on here who can't be mentioned who that we have to fight back because the Census said Atlanta was to low. So add 3 more to the city please. Thank and have a blessed day.

~Markesha
Oh you were told that by MikeandIke? Great. So, explain something, was the Census too low as opposed to what? We have people moving in with no job, no support, how is that going to help the Census to go up and at the same time contribute to the city PROGRESS? Having 3 additional people on top of 1000's who are moving in with no skills, no secured employment, no means to pay rent on a dwelling plus with 2 dependents? How does that make sense and helps with having quantity as opposed to quality? This logic is destructive.
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Unread 04-21-2011, 10:01 PM
 
Location: Alpharetta, GA
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Our uneoyment here is over 10%. Why are there so many " moving to Atlanta threads"? Where are the jobs? We need to balance out our jobs vs people.
Check my thread I started they come here because you can still buy a house for under a $100k. My point again the cost of living is the only reason people flock here.
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Unread 04-22-2011, 05:40 AM
 
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Oh you were told that by MikeandIke? Great. So, explain something, was the Census too low as opposed to what? We have people moving in with no job, no support, how is that going to help the Census to go up and at the same time contribute to the city PROGRESS? Having 3 additional people on top of 1000's who are moving in with no skills, no secured employment, no means to pay rent on a dwelling plus with 2 dependents? How does that make sense and helps with having quantity as opposed to quality? This logic is destructive.
The more people then the more money gets sent to the bigger cities. People on this website think the Census was too low in Atlanta it's probably because the state of Georgia doesnt want Atlanta to have power and get more money from the government. I don't understand it all but the politischins do not like Atlanta for some reason. Probably racist. So so sad when there is so much *GOOD* and creative things happening there. DC is too fancy and gentrified and doesn't deserve the honor of chocolate city anymore. Atlanta has been holding that position a long time now.

~Markesha
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Unread 04-22-2011, 10:50 AM
 
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The more people then the more money gets sent to the bigger cities. People on this website think the Census was too low in Atlanta it's probably because the state of Georgia doesnt want Atlanta to have power and get more money from the government. I don't understand it all but the politischins do not like Atlanta for some reason. Probably racist. So so sad when there is so much *GOOD* and creative things happening there. DC is too fancy and gentrified and doesn't deserve the honor of chocolate city anymore. Atlanta has been holding that position a long time now.

~Markesha
Markesha, despite the fact that you are a troll, you need to seriously take a look at what's going on in Atlanta before you move here. If you are looking for a city that is not gentrifying and not experiencing a decline in its black population and an increase in its Hispanic population, Atlanta isn't it. Atlanta is undergoing the same changes as DC. Charlotte would be much better for you.
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Unread 04-22-2011, 01:49 PM
 
Location: Midtown Atlanta
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The more people then the more money gets sent to the bigger cities. People on this website think the Census was too low in Atlanta it's probably because the state of Georgia doesnt want Atlanta to have power and get more money from the government. I don't understand it all but the politischins do not like Atlanta for some reason. Probably racist. So so sad when there is so much *GOOD* and creative things happening there. DC is too fancy and gentrified and doesn't deserve the honor of chocolate city anymore. Atlanta has been holding that position a long time now.

~Markesha
I'm white and the term "chocolate city" is offensive to me!
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Unread 04-24-2011, 07:03 PM
 
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The more people then the more money gets sent to the bigger cities. People on this website think the Census was too low in Atlanta it's probably because the state of Georgia doesnt want Atlanta to have power and get more money from the government. I don't understand it all but the politischins do not like Atlanta for some reason. Probably racist. So so sad when there is so much *GOOD* and creative things happening there. DC is too fancy and gentrified and doesn't deserve the honor of chocolate city anymore. Atlanta has been holding that position a long time now.

~Markesha
The more people then the more money gets sent to the bigger cities.

WRONG!! I do not know who fed you this lie. The Federal Government does not send money to Atlanta. Atlanta has its own city government and state government, not all initiatives and funds coming towards Atlanta are federal.

People on this website think the Census was too low in Atlanta it's probably because the state of Georgia doesnt want Atlanta to have power and get more money from the government.

People on this forum or 'website' as you name it, are not experts; myself included. Whatever they 'think' of the census is their opinion; it is not true or fact. News flash for you Atlanta is the economics multiplier of the state of Georgia hence THE powerful city. Unless Macon, Savannah or Americus took its place but I doubt it. There is lots of money being spent on Atlanta, whether the money is well spent or directed to infrastructure or initiatives that is an entire new subject.

I don't understand it all but the politischins do not like Atlanta for some reason. Probably racist. So so sad when there is so much *GOOD* and creative things happening there.

News flash Georgia has plenty of political black representation in the house, the senate and city. Yes there are so many creative things happening in Georgia: for the educated, experienced and established. Again, whatever you were fed and whatever you are making up is non-sense.

DC is too fancy and gentrified and doesn't deserve the honor of chocolate city anymore. Atlanta has been holding that position a long time now.

I feel offended your assumption that minorities do not appreciate gentrification and refinement. For your information Atlanta is the home to the most educated and refined blacks in the nation who are also entitled the 'Nouveau Riche' generation. Your assumption that a 'chocolate city' has to have a slew of minorities who are uneducated living in run-down, delapidated hoods is beyond regressive and so 1980s. Atlanta is what it is today because of its educated population and due to gentrification. Atlanta holds a position of an educated, progressive and discriminating minorities. So spare me from the ignorance.
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