04-28-2011, 10:27 AM
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Okay, Spike Lee may not be based here anymore but he was born here and educated at Morehouse and Clark. So I've always thought of him as having Atlanta roots.
Have y'all followed the controversy between Lee and Tyler Perry? They've been going at it pretty seriously.
Tyler Perry Vs. Spike Lee: A Debate Over Class And 'Coonery' : Tell Me More : NPR
Tyler Perry Vs Spike Lee | The Urban Daily (http://theurbandaily.com/theurbandaily-original/kevineason/tyler-perry-vs-spike-lee/ - broken link)
04-28-2011, 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by
arjay57
Okay,
Spike Lee may not be based here anymore but he was born here and educated at Morehouse and Clark. So I've always thought of him as having Atlanta roots.
Have y'all followed the controversy between Lee and Tyler Perry? They've been going at it pretty seriously.
Tyler Perry Vs. Spike Lee: A Debate Over Class And 'Coonery' : Tell Me More : NPR
Tyler Perry Vs Spike Lee | The Urban Daily (http://theurbandaily.com/theurbandaily-original/kevineason/tyler-perry-vs-spike-lee/ - broken link)
Wow...so, Spike Lee's actually a native Atlantan, whereas Tyler Perry is not?
04-28-2011, 12:45 PM
Location: Lilburn GA
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Wow...so, Spike Lee's actually a native Atlantan, whereas Tyler Perry is not?
Wow here also-when I lived in NY, I would have sworn up and down that Spike was a born and bred NYer.
04-28-2011, 01:05 PM
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Wow here also-when I lived in NY, I would have sworn up and down that Spike was a born and bred NYer.
Same here, wow!
04-28-2011, 02:11 PM
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I heard Tyler Perry discussing this on the radio and really I agree with him even though I am not a big fan of his movies. I don't feel that Spike Lee has any right to criticize him, especially in regards to the black community since Tyler has put so many black actors/actresses and behind the scenes people to work. He does a lot of charitable work. All of his movies are not "bufoonery." I think that if Spike had a problem with Tyler he should have reached out to Tyler instead of throwing jabs at him via the media. I also don't like Spike's movies all that much because I consider him rather sexist but this whole attack of his on Tyler Perry has made him become even less appealing to me.
04-28-2011, 02:57 PM
Location: The Greatest city on Earth: City of Atlanta Proper
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I'm kind of on the fence. Spike Lee does have a point about the quality of movies that Tyler Perry has the chance to make given his influence and power in Hollywood (not to mention his own studio) but doesn't. And lets face it, there is a TON of "shuckin and jivin" in any movie with the Madea charachter in it. Perry has a golden opportunity to showcase stories and writers (not just African-American ones) who rarely get a chance to have their voice heard in Hollywood.
On the flip side this is a free country and free market. It's Tyler Perry's company and he can do very well whatever he wants to make as much as wants and laugh all the way to the bank.
Spike Lee also has the certain tendency inherent in all Morehouse men (I should know being one) of this snooty level of self importance that looks down anything that doesn't meet their standard (raises hand, guilty as charged
). It is to the point that he has burned so many bridges and pissed so many people off that he has nearly destroyed what started off as being an absolutely brilliant career. While they were not his only good movies, his first six movies (She's Gotta Have It, School Daze, Do the Right Thing, Mo Better Blues, Jungle Fever, and Malcolm X) are masterpieces of American Cinema and essentially a guide book to the 1980s and early 90s Black urban experience.
This whole thing is just a bunch of nonsense if you ask me.
Oh, and just to clarify:
Spike Lee was indeed born in Atlanta and his family is originally from here. When he was a small child though his immediate family moved Brooklyn, so he spent his adolescence in NYC. He returned to Atlanta to attend Morehouse College where he received a B.A. in Mass Comm. While he took film classes at Atlanta University (at the time Lee was a student at Morehouse, Clark College and Atlanta University were two separate schools. They did not merge until 1988) he was never in enrolled there (all students at any AUC institution have to the ability to register for classes related to their major at any AUC institution). Instead, he received his Masters in Fine Arts from NYU's Tisch School of the Arts.
While he is a full time resident of New York City, his extended family still resides in Atlanta and he does have a residence here as he is involved in many Atlanta area organizations and charities. He also regularly gives seminars and lectures on film at Clark-Atlanta University.
Another little fun fact:
All of the feature films
written (notice the bolding) by Spike Lee have been set in either New York City or Atlanta. (I'm excluding
When the Levees Broke and
If God Is Willing and Da Creek Don't Rise , both set in New Orleans, as they were documentaries)
04-28-2011, 03:26 PM
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I'm going to side with Tyler Perry..if only because Tyler is a nice guy, he's very approachable, he's well liked (he's from New Orleans)
04-28-2011, 04:43 PM
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Team Spike Lee!
04-28-2011, 05:47 PM
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I agree with Spike Lee 100%... I hate Tyler Perry movies. If the theme isnt shuckin and jivin its all men are the devil and battered woman flicks. It got old 2 years ago to me. He's the main reason I dont even bother watching TBS.
04-28-2011, 05:49 PM
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House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
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House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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). It is to the point that he has burned so many bridges and pissed so many people off that he has nearly destroyed what started off as being an absolutely brilliant career. While they were not his only good movies, his first six movies (She's Gotta Have It, School Daze, Do the Right Thing, Mo Better Blues, Jungle Fever, and Malcolm X) are masterpieces of American Cinema and essentially a guide book to the 1980s and early 90s Black urban experience. 
