Black flight: Now it is the turn of America’s blacks to leave for the suburbs

[son-house]

This same trend occurred in the 80s, albeit the average Black folks in the 80s had significantly less buying power than folks today.

The result was a ring of poor suburbs surrounding the suddenly-whiter city center.

My family tried the suburbs for 1 year back in the 80s (Chicago-area, South Suburbs) but fortunately my father recognized the trick and took us back to Chicago proper where familiar communities were more established and less-succeptible to the whims of majority/minority jostling.

[rcsteiner]

Originally Posted by Steelers10

4. Because you have far more whites leaving than blacks moving in, whites that attempted to remain cannot sell their houses as quickly (or at all) and begin to rent the properties; with fewer people (notably property owners with a stake in the community) the tax base erodes and neighborhood services begin to decline

Some subdivisions have HOAs which can limit this activity due to restrictions on the percentage of rentals.

[Steelers10]

Originally Posted by son-house

This same trend occurred in the 80s, albeit the average Black folks in the 80s had significantly less buying power than folks today.

The result was a ring of poor suburbs surrounding the suddenly-whiter city center.

My family tried the suburbs for 1 year back in the 80s (Chicago-area, South Suburbs) but fortunately my father recognized the trick and took us back to Chicago proper where familiar communities were more established and less-succeptible to the whims of majority/minority jostling.

And I would imagine those people who were able to hold onto those Southside properties were the catalyst to black buying power of the 1990s and 2000s because of the amount of equity they built up. And imagine, Bernard Hopkins thinks Donovan McNabb is privileged to have grown up in Dolton!

Originally Posted by rcsteiner

Some subdivisions have HOAs which can limit this activity due to restrictions on the percentage of rentals.

No doubt, more upper-middle income and upper income subdivisions have Homeowners associations. In your opinion, when do you think HOAs in metro Atlanta became the norm? I would estimate sometime in the mid-90s. The transitional neighborhoods that I am envisioning definitely did not have HOAs. Clayton County simply doesn't have the more upscale communities that tend to have HOAs. I would be interested to know in informal polling how many people in metro Atlanta living in a community older than the 1990s actually have an HOA in place.

[aries4118]

Originally Posted by Steelers10

No doubt, more upper-middle income and upper income subdivisions have Homeowners associations. In your opinion, when do you think HOAs in metro Atlanta became the norm? I would estimate sometime in the mid-90s. The transitional neighborhoods that I am envisioning definitely did not have HOAs. Clayton County simply doesn't have the more upscale communities that tend to have HOAs. I would be interested to know in informal polling how many people in metro Atlanta living in a community older than the 1990s actually have an HOA in place.

Actually, tons of neighborhoods...especially in the suburban areas. This started in the 1970s. It has been the saving grace for a lot areas in the Metro.

[rcsteiner]

Originally Posted by Steelers10

No doubt, more upper-middle income and upper income subdivisions have Homeowners associations. In your opinion, when do you think HOAs in metro Atlanta became the norm? I would estimate sometime in the mid-90s. The transitional neighborhoods that I am envisioning definitely did not have HOAs. Clayton County simply doesn't have the more upscale communities that tend to have HOAs. I would be interested to know in informal polling how many people in metro Atlanta living in a community older than the 1990s actually have an HOA in place.

I've only lived in the Atlanta area for 6 1/2 years, so I can't give any insight into the history of HOAs here, but our subdivision has had an HOA since it was established by John Wieland in 1988.