For New Life, Blacks in City Head to South (Atlanta: employment, neighborhoods)

[liamnwk]

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/22/ny...gm0ZxeI3HzOjMw


Just like these guys I am heading down south once the wife is done with school. If you have an education and want a family and save money Atlanta is the place to be


Duluth/Johns Creek or Lilburn or Dunwoody ... can't decide

[ckhthankgod]

What's interesting is that NY State still has more Black people than any other state and is 10th in percentage.

[AcidSnake]

My only disappointment with this phenomena is that the New Yorker African Americans & other northen blacks that have moved down here haven't brought down any renewed sense of political and/or economic fervor with them. I have not seen any new ideas created and enacted as a result of this latest generational migration.

For example, from reading the article some folks are moving south just to avoid dealing with police abuse. But yet, police abuse of minorities is just as prevalent down here and in some southern cities & counties even more so. Yet none of the formerly northern blacks from what I have observed have displayed any sort of interest in coming to grips with this situation in the south and maybe try addressing it in the political arena.

Also some folks are moving down south because they have not found any decent employment up north. My problem is, there are so many places in the south where unemployment for blacks far outpaces that of the north. Why not bring in some entrepreneurial imagination and create a business?

But let me stop, lest I protest too much. I hope that my New York brothas and sistas find their new paradise where ever they settle in the south.

Originally Posted by liamnwk

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/22/ny...gm0ZxeI3HzOjMw


Just like these guys I am heading down south once the wife is done with school. If you have an education and want a family and save money Atlanta is the place to be


Duluth/Johns Creek or Lilburn or Dunwoody ... can't decide

[Akhenaton06]

Originally Posted by AcidSnake

My only disappointment with this phenomena is that the New Yorker African Americans & other northen blacks that have moved down here haven't brought down any renewed sense of political and/or economic fervor with them. I have not seen any new ideas created and enacted as a result of this latest generational migration.

For example, from reading the article some folks are moving south just to avoid dealing with police abuse. But yet, police abuse of minorities is just as prevalent down here and in some southern cities & counties even more so. Yet none of the formerly northern blacks from what I have observed have displayed any sort of interest in coming to grips with this situation in the south and maybe try addressing it in the political arena.

I think this is where Georgia is at a disadvantage in having only one really big, progressive metro area that everybody flocks to: any political progress is hyper-concentrated and so it's just even easier for the good ol boys to neglect Atlanta and the surrounding areas. But states that can manage to attract a good amount of politically progressive types to more than one area have an easier time making progress statewide. It's simply a function of numbers.

[FlyiMetro]

Originally Posted by liamnwk

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/22/ny...gm0ZxeI3HzOjMw


Just like these guys I am heading down south once the wife is done with school. If you have an education and want a family and save money Atlanta is the place to be


Duluth/Johns Creek or Lilburn or Dunwoody ... can't decide

Moving to any city because your race is the trait of an idiot.

[JTJ1977]

Originally Posted by AcidSnake

My only disappointment with this phenomena is that the New Yorker African Americans & other northen blacks that have moved down here haven't brought down any renewed sense of political and/or economic fervor with them. I have not seen any new ideas created and enacted as a result of this latest generational migration.

For example, from reading the article some folks are moving south just to avoid dealing with police abuse. But yet, police abuse of minorities is just as prevalent down here and in some southern cities & counties even more so. Yet none of the formerly northern blacks from what I have observed have displayed any sort of interest in coming to grips with this situation in the south and maybe try addressing it in the political arena.

Also some folks are moving down south because they have not found any decent employment up north. My problem is, there are so many places in the south where unemployment for blacks far outpaces that of the north. Why not bring in some entrepreneurial imagination and create a business?

But let me stop, lest I protest too much. I hope that my New York brothas and sistas find their new paradise where ever they settle in the south.

Although you make very salient points, still, give the NEW YAWKAS some time, and they, along with the rest of us "Northern folk" will begin to establish ourselves economically in the South. I think that each and everyone that's relocating is just trying to find their place under the sun, and if Atlanta, Houston, Charlotte, or a myriad of other cities and towns throughout the "homeland" can provide that, then huge ups to them.

And personally, I don't find it stupid to consider race when making a relocation, since people want a sense of comfort (directed at the previous poster above). Everyone does it, but it comes out in different ways. Many whites will ask where are the "dangerous" cities/suburbs/counties in a metro area, or where are the "bad school districts", which is generally code for "Where are the blacks/Latinos?". Well, from my black, Midwestern upbringing, that's what it always was interpreted as for me and my fellow black compatriots. You see it on just about every board dealing with relocation on CD, and the responses are generally filled with rumors, innuendo, and flat out misstatements/lies about neighborhoods and communities. That's just my .02 on the subject...lol.

[Box]

Originally Posted by FlyiMetro

Moving to any city because your race is the trait of an idiot.

Because most people haven't done his historically?

[FlyiMetro]

Originally Posted by Box

Because most people haven't done his historically?

Most people are not that smart. Seriously, that why the media has so much power. Atlanta doesnt need anymore black people, we have ENOUGH here already. So in 2011 moving to a city just because of your race for COMFORT reasons says a lot about that person....some form of weakness. Sorry but thats my take on it.

[JTJ1977]

Originally Posted by FlyiMetro

Most people are not that smart. Seriously, that why the media has so much power. Atlanta doesnt need anymore black people, we have ENOUGH here already. So in 2011 moving to a city just because of your race for COMFORT reasons says a lot about that person....some form of weakness. Sorry but thats my take on it.

I don't think it comes down to Atlanta not needing more people (black, white, purple or green for all I care); rather, Atlanta needs BETTER TRANSPORTATION OPTIONS.

A metropolis of 5.0-5.5 million people should not have what passes for "subway" service in the metro Atlanta area. The subway system should stretch throughout the 20 county metropolitan area like tentacles, covering vital business, residential, transportation and economic hubs in the ATL area. Instead, MARTA covers a ridiculously low area of Fulton and DeKalb counties, and, quite frankly, it is embarrassing to look at. That might've been cool circa 1982, but Atlanta's grown almost 3 million people since the 1980 Census.

BTW, we hardy folk in Iowa would LOVE to have the growth that Atlanta (and Georgia) have had for the past 3-4 decades, traffic and all. It means that something's being done right. But if the boneheads in the legislature continue to ignore the importance of creating an updated transportation system, Atlanta's economic vitality will begin to wane, and other metro areas (read: Charlotte/Nashville) will eventually begin to step up to the plate.

[Hobgob]

Originally Posted by JTJ1977

I don't think it comes down to Atlanta not needing more people (black, white, purple or green for all I care); rather, Atlanta needs BETTER TRANSPORTATION OPTIONS.

A metropolis of 5.0-5.5 million people should not have what passes for "subway" service in the metro Atlanta area. The subway system should stretch throughout the 20 county metropolitan area like tentacles, covering vital business, residential, transportation and economic hubs in the ATL area. Instead, MARTA covers a ridiculously low area of Fulton and DeKalb counties, and, quite frankly, it is embarrassing to look at. That might've been cool circa 1982, but Atlanta's grown almost 3 million people since the 1980 Census.

BTW, we hardy folk in Iowa would LOVE to have the growth that Atlanta (and Georgia) have had for the past 3-4 decades, traffic and all. It means that something's being done right. But if the boneheads in the legislature continue to ignore the importance of creating an updated transportation system, Atlanta's economic vitality will begin to wane, and other metro areas (read: Charlotte/Nashville) will eventually begin to step up to the plate.

Yes and Charlotte, Nashville, Houston and Dallas have great subways..lol. Worry about Iowa before coming in this forum being ignorant.