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Average salary for an APS teacher is $59,528 for 38 weeks, or $81,459 based on a 52 week year.
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Originally Posted by PKCorey
You do know the pay is the same for the whole year, correct?
Only difference, you can spread your check over 12 months instead of 10 months (pay check during summer break). A teacher contract is 180 days only.
Your pay doesn't increase to 52 weeks...
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Originally Posted by MathmanMathman
Some teach summer school for extra $$$.
I think PKCorey has a point, and arjay's post was a bit misleading. I doubt the average teacher is finding a summertime gig that pays at the same rate as their school-year job, allowing them to bring home a gross annual income of $81K. The $60K teaching salary is probably more like it. That's not a bad income I guess, particularly when accompanied by excellent benefits, but neither is it exactly astoundingly lucrative.
Like I said above, the homogeneity of a country/area is not the point--and does not really matter.
Who says it doesn't? Are you trying to take it off the table because it isn't PC? It doesn't help if we ignore realities of ethnic makeup among other things. Two top performing countries are South Korea and Japan. South Korea is essentially homogeneous and Japan is 98.5% Japanese.
One thing we wrestle with in the US is just what should be taught in the first place and in some cases the lines drawn are based on ethnicity. Ebonics anyone?
But, it seems like you are just picking and choosing data/facts to further you own agenda (though what your agenda is exactly, is unclear).
At this point I'm just challenging the article. It does seem to be laced with left-wing action words when it should be written as if it were by a disinterested observer.
Ebonics is a non-linguistic term--with racist connotations.
The dialect of American English known as African American Vernacular English does not have anything to do with this discussion--unless one has an alterior motive/agenda.
(Hint: Those with a reactionary/conservative {maybe even racist} agenda)
Just because someone brings up the fact doesn't automatically mean they are reactionary(which is not synonymous with conservative), much less racist. I think it is something that should definitely be acknowledged. We can't go on and on about diversity in some aspects of life and then assume everyone is exactly the same in others.
And before someone takes what I just said out of context; I am in no way implying that someones race or culture limits or enhances anyone's abilities.
I think PKCorey has a point, and arjay's post was a bit misleading. I doubt the average teacher is finding a summertime gig that pays at the same rate as their school-year job, allowing them to bring home a gross annual income of $81K. The $60K teaching salary is probably more like it. That's not a bad income I guess, particularly when accompanied by excellent benefits, but neither is it exactly astoundingly lucrative.
Teachers also often go back to university in the summer to obtain advanced certificates so they can command better pay. Not as easy to do with a regular job.
The funny thing is I've had summer classes where most of the students were these school teachers and they are without a doubt the worst behaving students I've ever seen in a university class!
Just because someone brings up the fact doesn't automatically mean they are reactionary(which is not synonymous with conservative), much less racist. I think it is something that should definitely be acknowledged. We can't go on and on about diversity in some aspects of life and then assume everyone is exactly the same in others.
And before someone takes what I just said out of context; I am in no way implying that someones race or culture limits or enhances anyone's abilities.
But the point is, Brother DTL3000--all the Finland stuff is about how to teach young humans universally.
Let's not bring the diversity American non-sense (whether one likes it or not) into it. The model outlined can be instituted anywhere--because the model concerns how a society approaches education (standards, testing, curriculum, teacher professionalism, teacher-training, teacher status, addressing child/societal poverty, etc.).
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