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Old 07-05-2011, 04:18 PM
 
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And, the children lose. Is this grounds for a class action lawsuit?
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Old 07-05-2011, 05:11 PM
 
Location: East Side of ATL
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Anyone know why Douglas County has prosecutorial jurisdiction in this case with Fulton and Dekalb County?

I can't believe anyone is shocked. You want to go solely on scores only, you get people who will doing anything to keep their jobs.
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Old 07-05-2011, 05:16 PM
 
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Mayor: a complete failure of leadership in APS in testing scandal

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Atlanta Mayor Kasim Reed called today a “dark day” for Atlanta Public Schools and said the results of a special investigation into cheating on state tests “confirms our worst fears.”

Reed, who became deeply involved in a major dispute that erupted recently over the chairmanship of the Atlanta school board, also said blame rests with those who led the district.

He said “…there is no question that a complete failure of leadership in the Atlanta Public School system hurt thousands of children who were promoted to the next grade without meeting basic academic standards.”

At a press conference attended by six of the nine Atlanta School Board members Tuesday afternoon, interim superintendent Erroll Davis reiterated the sentiments of the governor in that there will be consequences for people found to have cheated in the Atlanta Public Schools testing scandal.

“Anyone who cheated or was responsible will not work in front of children in Atlanta again," Davis said.

Board members said they expect immediate action once all the information is available, but board chairman Brenda Muhammad said the board will look ahead, "committed to making sure this never, ever happens again."

Although the board has a lot to discuss and has not seen the report yet, Muhammad said it is focused on moving forward. That “doesn’t mean beating up Beverly Hall,” she said.

Gov. Nathan Deal warned Tuesday morning “there will be consequences” for educators who cheated in Atlanta Public Schools.

At a press conference attended by six of the nine Atlanta School Board members Tuesday afternoon, interim superintendent Erroll Davis reiterated the sentiments of the governor in that there will be consequences for people found to have cheated in the Atlanta Public Schools testing scandal.

“Anyone who cheated or was responsible will not work in front of children in Atlanta again," Davis said.
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Old 07-05-2011, 05:18 PM
 
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Where's your proof?
The proof is well documented and I'll be glad to post it in detail later, but I've gotta run to dinner.

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Old 07-05-2011, 05:46 PM
 
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Right but based on system wide performance, they are not the best school systems. You can't have it both ways, either there are good schools in APS despite the current issues with the stinkers and the admin, or an entire system is judged in it's entirety.
Right now, the quality of the APS is impugned which casts doubt on the whole system as to how it has been measured. That's not the case with Cobb or Fulton. If test scores show a Cobb or Fulton school is good or bad, I at least have faith in the assessment. And there are Cobb and Fulton schools that have a great reputation, and the scores to back it.
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Old 07-05-2011, 05:58 PM
 
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I don't think it works like that, unless someone adopts your line of argument.

It's indisputable that APS has a number of outstanding elementary and middle schools. They weren't involved in cheating and have been officially cleared of any such allegations.

It's equally true that management of APS has been horrible.

You can't to tar the great schools and students with the management failure but I don't think that's fair at all.
Sorry, but a school system could lose accreditation over something like this. The entire Clayton County School system was brought down when it lost accreditation. The cheating was found in 44 of 56, that's almost 80% of your schools. So what of the others? It still casts some doubt because maybe they did a better job of hiding it? How can we know the scores are correct? This is so big that Governor Deal is involved.
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Old 07-05-2011, 06:13 PM
 
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And, the children lose. Is this grounds for a class action lawsuit?
Lost in all the hoopla, mine included, is this fact.

I don't know what a suit would do except hurt the schools more. Atlanta is in a real mess here. What I suspect will happen is the teachers take the brunt of firings but the real culprits are so high up it's impossible to get them. Hall may have an ace if she threatens to take down more people. Happens everyday in politics. Black people should move out of the city imho (as they've been doing) so that institutions like APS don't doom them.
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Old 07-05-2011, 06:36 PM
 
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Beverly Hall should now run for Congress.......she would receive 90% of the black vote....even if she gets indicted....which probably won't happen. She is clearly a victim of "the man" trying to keep her down......
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Old 07-05-2011, 06:45 PM
 
Location: Decatur
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The cheating was found in 44 of 56, that's almost 80% of your schools. So what of the others? It still casts some doubt because maybe they did a better job of hiding it? How can we know the scores are correct? This is so big that Governor Deal is involved.
Wrong. There were 56 schools investigated, 44 of those were determined involved with the cheating scandal.
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Old 07-05-2011, 07:13 PM
 
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Wrong. There were 56 schools investigated, 44 of those were determined involved with the cheating scandal.
Whew! I feel so much better about the APS now.
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