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How many other day-trippers increasingly stay away from Atlanta dining and shopping for the same reason?
Agreed. Even worse, I live in Dunwoody and never dine or shop here either for the same reason. TPTB in Dunwoody are anti-growth and I get this, but it's almost impossible to drive in this town.
I live in the mountains and I originally thought I would go down to Atlanta all the time. But the traffic made the experience so awful, I never want to go there anymore. (And I moved here from Dallas, TX!)
How many other day-trippers increasingly stay away from Atlanta dining and shopping for the same reason?
It doesn't matter what amenities Atlanta has or that nice housing is available for less. If I owned a company, I would not relocate my business there for the traffic reason alone.
I don't understand why Atlanta has allowed it to get so bad.
I moved here from Houston and live in-town. And I will never complain about Houston traffic again. We definitely do less here than we did in Houston because its just so hard to get around. We won't leave our neighborhood on Friday nights. Even at 7 pm its stacked up forever.
I think part of the problem is that anti-car people control the politics here. Another part of the problem is there just isn't the Texas can-do spirit. Its the Jimmy Carter era of limits mentality. Things get immediately dismissed as too hard, too expensive or too difficult.
I moved here from Houston and live in-town. And I will never complain about Houston traffic again. We definitely do less here than we did in Houston because its just so hard to get around. We won't leave our neighborhood on Friday nights. Even at 7 pm its stacked up forever.
I think part of the problem is that anti-car people control the politics here. Another part of the problem is there just isn't the Texas can-do spirit. Its the Jimmy Carter era of limits mentality. Things get immediately dismissed as too hard, too expensive or too difficult.
Actually, I think the real reason's entirely different: Texas has plenty of space for their roads. Heck, when they built Beltway 8, they left space for the freeway after building just the access roads in some places--a common practice in that state.
Contrast that with around here--there is NO space to add brand-new highways. That's probably the single biggest obstacle to the Northern Arc: They'd have to destroy a lot of property to build it. Where are we going to put a brand new highway? Whose houses are we willing to blow up to build it? These are not hypothetical questions, bu. The 400 expansion from 85 to the Perimeter took out a LOT of real estate and was thus bitterly opposed by residents there. So was the planned Stone Mountain Freeway and I-675 extensions, which residents were able to halt.
Furthermore, how good is traffic *really* in Houston? They've got two complete loops, a third one on the way, seven ways to get out of downtown on freeways as opposed to our five--they have no Downtown Connector--more miles of freeway per area, and despite all of that, their traffic is at least as bad as ours. Maybe because it's they too have terrible sprawl, not to mention a grand total of one transit rail line?
I moved here from Houston and live in-town. And I will never complain about Houston traffic again. We definitely do less here than we did in Houston because its just so hard to get around. We won't leave our neighborhood on Friday nights. Even at 7 pm its stacked up forever.
I think part of the problem is that anti-car people control the politics here. Another part of the problem is there just isn't the Texas can-do spirit. Its the Jimmy Carter era of limits mentality. Things get immediately dismissed as too hard, too expensive or too difficult.
Atlanta and Georgia went down in flames literally by the nation to which they now belong. There is no can-do here, it's more of a can-hate, by both sides. It is so bad the city put a slogan around it.
You are kidding here, right? Atlanta is about as can-do as it gets.
Atlanta and Georgia went down in flames literally by the nation to which they now belong. There is no can-do here, it's more of a can-hate, by both sides. It is so bad the city put a slogan around it.
What? That is probably the most ridiculous statement I have ever read??????????
The Atlanta that I live, work and play in has no racial divide.
I would venture that we have among the BEST race relations in the country here. What divide?
I agree that there IS infact still a hint of a racial divide in Atlanta.
I blame that racial divide for the past votes that have rejected MARTA from expanding outward to Cobb and Gwinnett.
I blame that racial divide for the incorporation of Sandy Springs, GA (which I believe, though may have been good for Sandy Springs, is very bad for ATLANTA).
I blame that racial divide for the talks of the secession of Buckhead to incorporate into its own municipality separate from Atlanta, which would plumit Atlanta, and we can all kiss the Atlanta metro growth goodbye.
I can agree that it is definitely not nearly as bad as many other major cities, but those major cities that have racial divide problems are well beyond a point that the racial divide can ever hold the city back like it still can in Atlanta.
Atlanta (IMO) is not as racially divided as Los Angeles, New York City, Richmond, Jacksonville and Boston, but LA, NYC and Boston are far beyond the point that Atlanta is at today (though they still share some of the same issues like traffic).
Atlanta and Georgia went down in flames literally by the nation to which they now belong. There is no can-do here, it's more of a can-hate, by both sides. It is so bad the city put a slogan around it.
I see people calling this crazy, BUT I gotta say I agree to some degree...
There are SO MANY people in Atlanta that would rather complain about what Atlanta is NOT and claim the places that they've transplanted from or even in many cases, the places where their families are from (disregarding that they were raised in Atlanta), than be proud of what Atlanta IS and provide ideas for how to improve it.
All I hear constantly is "oh, ya'll don't have sidewalks" (well YOU live here, so YOU don't either)
"oh, ya'll don't have this"/"ya'll don't have that..."
WAKE UP CALL!!!! IF YOU LIVE IN ATLANTA, WELCOME TO THE CLUB!!! YOU ARE PART OF THE CITY!!! IT'S YOUR HOME TOO!!!
This is evident in the sports fans... Go to a game and take a look around and see how many PROUD New York, Georgia; proud Chicago, Georgia; proud Dallas; Georgia; proud Philadelphia, Georgia and proud Wisconsin, Georgia fans there are...
It makes me sick to my stomach... I wanna puke on them for being traitors... For being more proud of another town then their own...
Like they said, this definitely does not go down the same in Texas (or New York).
People will live in Atlanta and have the audacity to separate themselves from being an Atlantan (as if they're just there on an extended vacation because the houses are nice).
Shame on them
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I'm going to rep you.
