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Old 09-07-2011, 12:29 PM
 
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Saw in the AJC that depending on the outcome of a lawsuit filed by a Big 12 school, Texas A&M will join the SEC. That would make 13 teams with A&M presumably as a west division team. So to balance, they'd need an east team.

http://www.ajc.com/sports/texas-a-m-move-1161428.html (broken link)

GT would be a sentimental choice as they used to be SEC and it wouldn't harm the UGA/GT rivalry. But the SEC doesn't need GT for a Georgia footprint. The SEC doesn't need Clemson for South Carolina. Not even Florida State for Florida. So maybe North Carolina?
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Old 09-07-2011, 12:34 PM
 
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Saw in the AJC that depending on the outcome of a lawsuit filed by a Big 12 school, Texas A&M will join the SEC. That would make 13 teams with A&M presumably as a west division team. So to balance, they'd need an east team.

Texas A&M move to SEC held up by legal threat *| ajc.com (http://www.ajc.com/sports/texas-a-m-move-1161428.html - broken link)

GT would be a sentimental choice as they used to be SEC and it wouldn't harm the UGA/GT rivalry. But the SEC doesn't need GT for a Georgia footprint. The SEC doesn't need Clemson for South Carolina. Not even Florida State for Florida. So maybe North Carolina?
Better choices (in my opinion) for joining the SEC and establishing a state "footprint":

NC State
Virginia Tech
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Old 09-07-2011, 12:40 PM
 
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Saw in the AJC that depending on the outcome of a lawsuit filed by a Big 12 school, Texas A&M will join the SEC. That would make 13 teams with A&M presumably as a west division team. So to balance, they'd need an east team.

Texas A&M move to SEC held up by legal threat *| ajc.com (http://www.ajc.com/sports/texas-a-m-move-1161428.html - broken link)

GT would be a sentimental choice as they used to be SEC and it wouldn't harm the UGA/GT rivalry. But the SEC doesn't need GT for a Georgia footprint. The SEC doesn't need Clemson for South Carolina. Not even Florida State for Florida. So maybe North Carolina?
Only schools in the confederacy should be allowed to join meaning the SOUTH. NO West Virginia or Missouri and also we dont need a school like Tech with a stadium that only holds around 50K. Sorry we already have a Vanderbilt in the conference and while Tech is a little better than Vandy they arent that much better IMHO.

It would be a miracle for Tech to post a winning record in the SEC as they have had some success but not sustained success in the very WEAK ACC. I would much rather have Clemson or Florida State because they pack their BIG stadiums and have very die hard SOUTHERN fans even though Clemson cant even win in the ACC either which I simply find laughable. Simply put Tech should thank their lucky stars they are in the ACC and not Conference USA of the Sunbelt and this is coming from a Bama fan NOT a UGA homer. The SEC is simply too good for Tech!
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Old 09-07-2011, 01:23 PM
 
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Teams that won't move to SEC:

Georgia Tech
Florida State
Clemson
*These three are being blocked by UF, USC and UGA. They have aligned to keep these other schools out. Plus, adding them adds no value to the television contracts which are ultimately driving the expansions.

Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University (incrrectly called VT)- Won't leave because they won't be allowed to in the state legislature without taking UVA. VPISU values the ACC for academic association as well. UVA has no desire to leave.

NCSU - Won't leave because of basketball tradition with other NC schools. Too much history in ACC. They might be mad about lil brother status with UNC, but they won't leave.


Teams that might fit:

Missouri - Not a great fit, but adds a few big TV markets in St Louis and KC.
West Virginia - SEC-like fanbase. WVU would never get ACC invite due to horrendous academics. Doesn't add much to SEC TV deal.



Back to GT...

Most likely destination, BigTen. Sounds weird, but GT will add Atlanta market to BigTen Network and open up Atlanta and the South to BigTen football. GT would like the academic association with the BIG research universities in the BigTen. I fully expect the BigTen to add Maryland, GT, Rutgers and ND in the near future. ND might be a long shot, but they will realize that they need a conference or they will be left behind in the future of college football.
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Old 09-07-2011, 02:31 PM
 
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[quote=suprascooby22;20780847]Only schools in the confederacy should be allowed to join meaning the SOUTH. NO West Virginia or Missouri and also we dont need a school like Tech with a stadium that only holds around 50K. Sorry we already have a Vanderbilt in the conference and while Tech is a little better than Vandy they arent that much better IMHO.

It would be a miracle for Tech to post a winning record in the SEC as they have had some success but not sustained success in the very WEAK ACC. I would much rather have Clemson or Florida State because they pack their BIG stadiums and have very die hard SOUTHERN fans even though Clemson cant even win in the ACC either which I simply find laughable. Simply put Tech should thank their lucky stars they are in the ACC and not Conference USA of the Sunbelt and this is coming from a Bama fan NOT a UGA homer. The SEC is simply too good for Tech![/quote]

Yep, we found out just how big and bad the SEC is this past weekend with Georgia losing to Boise State, Ole Miss losing to BYU, and Auburn almost losing to Utah State........ A bunch of 0-2 star white kids came out of the West and showed those dreadlocked "5 stars" how football is played. Boise was just too athletic and fast for Georgia. My favorite moment was watching "5 Star" and number one ranked RB Isaiah Crowell trip over his own feet and fall down in the UGA backfield on his first run from scrimmage.....
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Old 09-07-2011, 02:41 PM
 
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gtcorndog is mostly right, except TV deals for SEC aren't as important as everyone seems to think they are. For the Big Ten, which runs a network that they either block or force onto the introductory cable tiers, TV markets are huge: if they can strongarm providers into adding their network, they can get like a buck a month from all the basic cable subscribers in the market area. The SEC mostly airs it's games nationally in huge CBS and ESPN contracts, so markets are less important for them. Instead, having passionate fanbases and airing games of national interest are critical.

WV and Mizzou are the most likely, but both are pretty meh. VT is a dark horse. We might not know anything for a long time.

And yeah, GT to Big Ten makes a ton of sense and would be an extremely aggressive and shrewd decision by Delaney. It would definitely raise Atlanta's profile in the college football world, too (and it's already pretty darned high). Although I am worried the Texas are going to start moaning about having the conference game in Dallas, which would suck in a lot of different ways.
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Old 09-07-2011, 02:57 PM
 
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I can only see GT going to the SEC if everything falls apart. In that instance, I could see GT, FSU and Clemson all going to the SEC. It would be a Virginia Tech situation with the board of regents in those states forcing Florida, South Carolina and UGA to accept it.
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Old 09-07-2011, 03:18 PM
 
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GT in the Big Ten would be like Miami when it was in the Big East. It makes sense in an odd way. GT is now an AAU school which is important to the Big Ten and it would give the Big Ten a piece of the Georgia recruiting grounds which is among the best in the country. And despite the distance, who doesn't know Ohio State, Michigan, Michigan State, Iowa, Purdue, Nebraska, and Penn State. Yet they are unfamiliar rivals. To take on GT would sort of being an acknowledgement by the Big Ten that they are in the dying Rust Belt and are looking to the future. GT's got the money but the travel would be a pain for them.

Notre Dame values its traditional games with USC, Stanford, and Navy, so being in a conference won't allow for much variety in its OOC schedule. Besides, Notre Dame can probably get away with being an independent.
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Old 09-07-2011, 03:27 PM
 
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I prefer the ACC stay where it is. Though if tech were to leave I would want to go to the SEC.
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Old 09-07-2011, 03:28 PM
 
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NC State
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