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Old 06-29-2018, 07:36 AM
 
Location: Addison, TX
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I'm going to list a few farther-flung cities outside Atlanta metro, could someone chip in and advise if you see these cities as still being an "exurb"? Thanks!

Dallas/Hiram/Villa Rica?

Adairsville/Cartetsville/Canton?

Gainesville/Lavonia/Toccoa?

Athens/Commerce?

Newnan/Peachtree City/McDonough?
IMO, the bolded have seen too much infill development (urbanization) to still be considered exurbs, despite being further out in terms of distance. They're bonafide suburbs at this point (Newnan in particular is rapidly becoming a small satellite city).

As far as Athens, it's technically not a part of Metro Atlanta (like LaGrange).

Adairsville? HA! Do you consider Grantville a part of Metro Atlanta? It would be the southside equivalent.

Toccoa, Commerce and Lavonia? Never heard of them.

The rest? Yes, they're exurbs. I would also include Coal Mountain and Locust Grove as exurbs.
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Old 06-29-2018, 07:48 AM
 
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Not sure if this is helpful, but I found it pretty informative...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atla...ropolitan_area
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Old 06-29-2018, 07:03 PM
 
Location: Georgia native in McKinney, TX
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I'm going to list a few farther-flung cities outside Atlanta metro, could someone chip in and advise if you see these cities as still being an "exurb"? Thanks!

Dallas/Hiram/Villa Rica?

Adairsville/Cartersville/Canton?

Gainesville/Lavonia/Toccoa?

Athens/Commerce?

Newnan/Peachtree City/McDonough?
I would look at population statistics over the last 4 to 5 decades to determine whether a city or town is an exurb or not. Population for most Georgia towns outside a metro area's reach are pretty flat over this time frame. when you see a city like Newnan go from 11k in 1980 to latest est of almost 39k, its growth is because of its proximity to Atlanta.

Newnan is a county seat town so lets look at something smaller. Villa Rica grew from 3400 to over 15k in the same time frame. Looking a little further out, my hometown of Hogansville has been treading water population wise. 3,362 in 1980 to latest est of 3,169. The county seat LaGrange was 24k in 1980, latest estimate 30k. Respectable growth, but Newnan which is about 35 miles closer to Atlanta was half the size of LaGrange in 1980 has now eclipsed it. Villa Rica which is closer to Atlanta on 20 than Hogansville is on 85 has almost quadrupled while Hogansville is flat.

Newnan and Villa Rica would have similar growth to Hogansville and LaGrange if they were not in the orb of Atlanta. Whether full on suburb or exurb, you have to say the growth in both is solely based on their distance from the heart of the city.

So your list above.... Lavonia and Toccoa are flat population wise over the same time period. Similar to Hogansville and LaGrange on the northeast side of the state. The rest of your list (minus Athens) has been directly affected by being close to Atlanta. Peachtree City was a planned city and wouldn't exist without its place near Atlanta.

Athens and Gainesville are the outliers as both are regional draws for their part of Georgia and sizeable burgs with or without Atlanta. A case could be made for Athens to have experienced its growth with or without its relative proximity to Atlanta because of UGA. I think Gainesville is a hybrid.... would have grown because of proximity to the mountains and Lake Lanier, but it has definitely grown because of its proximity to Atlanta.

So is a town or county an exurb of Atlanta? Look at the population statistics. Noticeable growth.... it is a suburb/exurb. The rest of Georgia is pretty flat in the same time frame.... Moderate growth in spots, no growth or decline in others.
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Old 06-29-2018, 07:57 PM
 
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Originally Posted by ddm2k View Post
I'm going to list a few farther-flung cities outside Atlanta metro, could someone chip in and advise if you see these cities as still being an "exurb"? Thanks!

Dallas/Hiram/Villa Rica?

Adairsville/Cartersville/Canton?

Gainesville/Lavonia/Toccoa?

Athens/Commerce?

Newnan/Peachtree City/McDonough?

Suburbs:
Dallas
Hiram
Villa Rica
Canton
Newnan
Peachtree City
McDonough


Exurbs:
Adairsville
Cartersville
Gainesville


Not:
Lavonia
Toccoa
Athens
Commerce
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Old 06-30-2018, 09:51 AM
 
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I would look at population statistics over the last 4 to 5 decades to determine whether a city or town is an exurb or not. Population for most Georgia towns outside a metro area's reach are pretty flat over this time frame. when you see a city like Newnan go from 11k in 1980 to latest est of almost 39k, its growth is because of its proximity to Atlanta.

Newnan is a county seat town so lets look at something smaller. Villa Rica grew from 3400 to over 15k in the same time frame. Looking a little further out, my hometown of Hogansville has been treading water population wise. 3,362 in 1980 to latest est of 3,169. The county seat LaGrange was 24k in 1980, latest estimate 30k. Respectable growth, but Newnan which is about 35 miles closer to Atlanta was half the size of LaGrange in 1980 has now eclipsed it. Villa Rica which is closer to Atlanta on 20 than Hogansville is on 85 has almost quadrupled while Hogansville is flat.

Newnan and Villa Rica would have similar growth to Hogansville and LaGrange if they were not in the orb of Atlanta. Whether full on suburb or exurb, you have to say the growth in both is solely based on their distance from the heart of the city.

So your list above.... Lavonia and Toccoa are flat population wise over the same time period. Similar to Hogansville and LaGrange on the northeast side of the state. The rest of your list (minus Athens) has been directly affected by being close to Atlanta. Peachtree City was a planned city and wouldn't exist without its place near Atlanta.

Athens and Gainesville are the outliers as both are regional draws for their part of Georgia and sizeable burgs with or without Atlanta. A case could be made for Athens to have experienced its growth with or without its relative proximity to Atlanta because of UGA. I think Gainesville is a hybrid.... would have grown because of proximity to the mountains and Lake Lanier, but it has definitely grown because of its proximity to Atlanta.

So is a town or county an exurb of Atlanta? Look at the population statistics. Noticeable growth.... it is a suburb/exurb. The rest of Georgia is pretty flat in the same time frame.... Moderate growth in spots, no growth or decline in others.
That is a good way to look at it, Saintmarks.

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Old 08-21-2018, 02:17 PM
 
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Can anyone provide insight on the residential area in Hiram right above where Jimmy Lee Smith meets Pace Rd / 92?
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