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Old 11-21-2011, 09:22 PM
 
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With the recommendation for streetcars on the Atlanta Belt-line instead of light rail released with the environmental report, citizens need to lobby for light rail. Streetcars carry more people than an articulated bus (accordion looking bus), but they carry way less than light rail and only a microscopic fraction of heavy rail like Marta. Streetcars have a max capacity of 130 people. That is basically a bus on rails. With the increased density the Belt-line is going to bring, implementing fast and efficient transit is crucial for this corridor so people opt out of their cars.

This is not a forgone conclusion for Streetcars and citizens need lobby for light rail as the distance to get to Marta station's on the Belt-line is way to long for a streetcar. Putting a streetcar on that route will make that trip an eternity which will discourage transit ridership. Streetcars are only appropriate for short trips after transferring from the main rapid transit network like Marta. Transit has to be convenient to work and the right mode must be chosen to suit a corridor based on it's scale. This project is a great opportunity to actually create a comprehensive transit network. It has potential to move Atlanta into a transit focused city. Lobby your officials to make the right choice.
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Old 11-22-2011, 12:36 AM
 
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I would actually prefer a mix between Light Rail and Streetcar.

Street car Between Inman Park and Lindbergh and in the Atlanta University Center area

Light Rail Between AUC and Lindbergh and Southern Portion of the Route.

Maybe they can build a train that is a hybrid Streetcar-Light Rail.

One question tho, where is the train yard going to go for the trains when it is built.
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Old 11-22-2011, 06:08 AM
 
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I thought the Beltline was going to be an extension of the Atlanta Streetcar, and that the Atlanta Streetcar was using this rolling stock:

Siemens S70 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

My understanding was that the reason a LRT system was going to be used for the streetcar was specifically because the system would eventually be extended over to the Beltline, and they wanted LRT for that. OP, could you clarify where you see this report?

Also, they are building a rail yard under the Connector between Edgewood and Auburn. Perfect place for it imo.
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Old 11-22-2011, 06:15 AM
 
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Light Rail.
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Old 11-22-2011, 06:37 AM
 
Location: The Greatest city on Earth: City of Atlanta Proper
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LRT

Streetcar tech serves a single neighborhood much better (from a speed and capacity standpoint) than the dozens of neighborhoods the Beltline will serve.
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Old 11-22-2011, 07:01 AM
 
Location: Atlanta
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this is what the streetcar will look like they are fully upgradeable for lightrail operations.
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Old 11-22-2011, 07:06 AM
 
Location: Atlanta
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More info on the S70 streetcar http://www.modernstreetcar.org/pdf/S...reetcar_HR.pdf
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Old 11-22-2011, 07:18 AM
 
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The report i read said that they are going to build the tracks so they are capapble of handeling light rail cars in the future if there is a need for light rail.

But i think what they are doing is fine. the s70 is more like a light rail but we are using it in the streetcar downtown so it just akes sense to use the same technology for the beltline so we can create one large network.
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Old 11-22-2011, 08:34 AM
 
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Streetcar is clearly the way to go. It's not at all clear at this point how much passenger traffic the Beltline will generate.

And a streetcar line is much cheaper and easier to install. The speed (up to 55 mph) should be quite sufficient for buzzing around intown.
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Old 11-22-2011, 08:38 AM
 
Location: Kirkwood
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Light-rail and streetcars use the same infrastructure. Streetcars would be a single car while light-rail would be multiple cars attached to create a train. This is why MARTA is using streetcars on the BeltLine so as demand increases more cars can be added to create longer trains.
I asked this same question to a top MARTA official. This way MARTA can use the facility to be located under the downtown connector for both downtown streetcar and BeltLine maintenance.
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