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Of course you'd want to sue, because God offends you, I suppose.
Here's what Jesus said.
"If the world hates you, keep in mind that it hated Me first"?
That kind of rings true in this discussion, doesn't it?
Almost everybody who has responded has pretty much said the same thing. Nobody has any problem with you believing what you want, or practicing whatever faith you prefer. Why can't you afford the rest of us the same freedom of choice? I just don't get it.
I would never throw my support behind any measure that favors one belief over another, and for such an ardent supporter of the flag, I can't reconcile your willingness to do so.
I have studied NDE's in depth, and unless you are outright fabricating a story, which I have no reason to believe, I expect exactly what your father reported in fact happened.
But even if we accept the accounts of NDE's as real events, representing real spiritual happenings, you cannot make the next leap and declare that since spirituality is real it must therefore follow that your dogmatic human religion is real. That the rules laid out in your holy book are in fact true, and must be obeyed lest eternal damnation find you on the other side.
You see, it is not uncommon for people to get exactly what their beliefs expect them to get when they die and return. Christians get Christ, Muslims get Allah, even occasionally people expecting hell find themselves there, though that is rare.
The issue is that no human religion knows the reality, and all this "God said this" and "God said that", and homosexuality is an abomination because the bible says so and infidels must be crushed because the koran said so is no more true than is Steven King's "The Stand". Interesting stories, nothing more.
And, to make an effort to circle back to the original topic, since we don't know, since no religion is true, the state propagandizing one over another is inappropriate. In fact, the state should not even acknowledge that human religion exists, much less advertise it on mandatory license plates.
I, too, have a friend who died of a heart attack and was revised, and he had a similar experience, though not nearly as in depth as he was revived rather quickly. He was not, and is not, a religious person, though he no longer fears death. But to hear the thumpers ever present amongst these boards, because he died not believing certin things, he should have been in hell, and yet, he was not.
What one believes is not important. We come from the source, and to it we shall return, for it is us and we are it.
Hell? Brimstone? Punishment for being "bad"? Doesn't exist. That doesn't mean that you should harm others, for the goal is to become love, and reject fear. And you get as many tries as it takes to get it right.
They started doing this "in god we trust" bull**** here in Florida a couple years ago. It's an optional license plate and they put it in the place of the county name or "sunshine state"
While I agree with your point, is it new? I recently returned to Florida after 12 years elsewhere, and I seem to remember that was always an option. Am I wrong?
They started doing this "in god we trust" bull**** here in Florida a couple years ago. It's an optional license plate and they put it in the place of the county name or "sunshine state"
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Now you tell me, how do you explain this?
The brain goes through tremendous changes during times of stress, and it's an element of the human body that is not understood very well.
I can't explain it, but I'm not going to attribute what he saw to some "vision" because the biomechanics are beyond me.
My answer: I don't know what happened, but it sounds like it had a profound impact on you. Would that be correct?
I can't honestly speculate any further without having more knowledge. To do so would be intellectually dishonest. I've never spoken to him in person, and even if I did, I could never experience things in the same way that he did.
I say the same thing about most religious experiences or beliefs. Some I can accept at face value, but many things about this world are subjective. Unless I am also you, I will never know your point of view. All I can do is try, and say "I don't know" when there are elements involved that I don't understand.
People ask me if God exists. My only answer at this point in my life is this: I don't know. To say otherwise would be a lie.
That doesn't make me an atheist. It makes me a rational human being.
Back to the original topic, which is placing a specific statement of faith on a license plate by default, and which is also apparently requiring those who don't want to make that statement pay an extra fee to remove/replace it.
Why can't you see the issue here?
If you replace the statement of faith as written, "In God We Trust", with some other statement of faith, would you also support it? Or is your support conditional on the statement being something you happen to agree with?
What if it said, "Blessed Be"...? I have a number of friends who would be thrilled with that. How about you?
I personally don't think *any* religious statement belongs on a state license plate. Christian, Shinto, Buddhist, whatever.
You can feel free to disagree with me if you'd like, but I'll see you in court if you try to impose it on me. That is my right as a citizen of this country.
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Location: Mableton, GA USA (NW Atlanta suburb, 4 miles OTP)
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I just looked at a dime, guess what?
What does federal coinage have to do with a state license plate?
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