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Unread 01-18-2012, 11:40 AM
 
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GPA's economic impact on the State's economy?
Statewide employment full and part-time jobs:
286,476
(7% of Georgia's Total Employment)

Gross State Product: $24.8 billion
(6% of Georgia's total GSP)

N.C. Ports:
Employment:65,000
2% of the states GDP
7.5 billion economic value
Ultimately, 1 or more state ports in NC will undergo a form of major expansion and become competitive with peers in the near future. Today, a majority of goods to the Charlotte metro are shipped via port of Charleston; primarily due a direct interstate route. Once US-74 from Charlotte to Wilmington is completely upgraded to full interstate grade, there will be pressure to leverage in-state business exchange.

Finally linking largest port to largest city:

http://businessnc.com/index.php?src=...ticles&print=y

NC has the ability/resources to make significant inroads in this arena.

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Unread 01-18-2012, 01:53 PM
 
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Ultimately, 1 or more state ports in NC will undergo a form of major expansion and become competitive with peers in the near future. Today, a majority of goods to the Charlotte metro are shipped via port of Charleston; primarily due a direct interstate route. Once US-74 from Charlotte to Wilmington is completely upgraded to full interstate grade, there will be pressure to leverage in-state business exchange.

Finally linking largest port to largest city:

Business North Carolina - North Carolina's business magazine

NC has the ability/resources to make significant inroads in this arena.
That's definitely what they should do. Not only interstate but also make sure they have good rail connections and can off-load from ship to train easily. Likewise Morehead City should have an interstate connection to Raleigh as well as good rail connections.
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Unread 01-18-2012, 02:15 PM
 
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Georgia does have some thing similar to RTP.The O.P. asked the question what does Georgia have in answer for RTP.Maybe not structured the exact same way,but the intended outcome and results are the same goals.How it was "asinine" in your opinion is beyond me.
I'm not seeing how this is a valid comparison. Sure both require investment by the state (like several other things), but that's pretty much the only basis of comparison between the two. Both have capitalized on their respective assets but saying one is "an answer" for the other is off-base IMO.
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Unread 01-18-2012, 03:15 PM
 
Location: Atlanta ,GA
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Ultimately, 1 or more state ports in NC will undergo a form of major expansion and become competitive with peers in the near future. Today, a majority of goods to the Charlotte metro are shipped via port of Charleston; primarily due a direct interstate route. Once US-74 from Charlotte to Wilmington is completely upgraded to full interstate grade, there will be pressure to leverage in-state business exchange.

Finally linking largest port to largest city:

Business North Carolina - North Carolina's business magazine

NC has the ability/resources to make significant inroads in this arena.
Im sure as states are always looking for more ways to increase there revenues and provide jobs.That was my point about how each state is always at different stages for developing these methods to create inroads in different areas.N.C. was way ahead of many states when developing something like the RTP and Georgia way ahead with increasing capacity of its ports to where it has come to be the 4th largest container port and fastest growing in America.
Do you know South Carolina and Georgia are in the process of trying to create even another port on the border of each state.It will be under a new alliance much like New Jersey and NYC Ports Authority
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Unread 01-18-2012, 03:18 PM
 
Location: Atlanta ,GA
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I'm not seeing how this is a valid comparison. Sure both require investment by the state (like several other things), but that's pretty much the only basis of comparison between the two. Both have capitalized on their respective assets but saying one is "an answer" for the other is off-base IMO.
Where did I ever say that it was?I did not.I just said they have done similar things ,but have spent more money in different ways.
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Unread 01-18-2012, 03:23 PM
 
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Where did I ever say that it was?I did not.I just said they have done similar things ,but have spent more money in different ways.
You said, "Georgia does have some thing similar to RTP." The port of Savannah is not "something similar to RTP." Just because they are both economic generators dependent on investment from the state doesn't mean they are similar. That's the case for a lot of things in both states. It would have been more accurate for you to say, "No Georgia doesn't have a research park like RTP, but the port of Savannah runs circles around any port in NC and has a substantial economic impact on the state."
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Unread 01-18-2012, 03:41 PM
 
Location: Atlanta ,GA
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You said, "Georgia does have some thing similar to RTP." The port of Savannah is not "something similar to RTP." Just because they are both economic generators dependent on investment from the state doesn't mean they are similar. That's the case for a lot of things in both states. It would have been more accurate for you to say, "No Georgia doesn't have a research park like RTP, but the port of Savannah runs circles around any port in NC and has a substantial economic impact on the state."
It was a two part answer.It was already discussed about the Georgia Research Alliance.Thats what is similar.In fact the missions are identical.So i said exactly what I meant.When it comes to research Georgia may be behind but its actually not far behind.It just happens to be more concentrated in the Atlanta metro area.The other part was about what the O.P. asked what Georgia had that N.C. did not.The fact that (as you agreed)Savannah and Brunswick Ports run circles around Wilmington and Morehead is why I brought t up.The gaps between Georgia research Alliance and RTP is not as steep as is the Ports in each state
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Unread 01-18-2012, 03:58 PM
 
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It was a two part answer.It was already discussed about the Georgia Research Alliance.Thats what is similar.In fact the missions are identical.So i said exactly what I meant.When it comes to research Georgia may be behind but its actually not far behind.It just happens to be more concentrated in the Atlanta metro area.The other part was about what the O.P. asked what Georgia had that N.C. did not.The fact that (as you agreed)Savannah and Brunswick Ports run circles around Wilmington and Morehead is why I brought t up.The gaps between Georgia research Alliance and RTP is not as steep as is the Ports in each state
OK, I gotcha. You mentioned the ports directly after talking about what was similar to RTP, so I assumed you were comparing the two.

I maintain that Georgia would have done much better to follow an RTP model in metro Atlanta with Emory, GA Tech, and UGA. The way it's set up now, I think it's too fractured.
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Unread 01-18-2012, 04:28 PM
 
Location: Atlanta ,GA
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OK, I gotcha. You mentioned the ports directly after talking about what was similar to RTP, so I assumed you were comparing the two.

I maintain that Georgia would have done much better to follow an RTP model in metro Atlanta with Emory, GA Tech, and UGA. The way it's set up now, I think it's too fractured.
Maybe.I suppose this is there way of spurring those other colleges outside of Atlanta to be included in more research.Im sure it will change in time as they determine whats not working oppose as to what will work better.
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Unread 01-18-2012, 04:31 PM
 
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Maybe.I suppose this is there way of spurring those other colleges outside of Atlanta to be included in more research.Im sure it will change in time as they determine whats not working oppose as to what will work better.
True. NC set up one to be the model with others following (PTRP, GURP, GTP, etc.) that have had varying levels of success. I'm sure what Georgia will do will also depend on how these school consolidation efforts are going which will concentrate resources.
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