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Old 03-31-2012, 11:18 AM
 
Location: Johns Creek, Georgia
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Here is a copy of an ad I have kept from 1996 for new homes in Irvine, California. Home prices from the bottom 1995 to the peak 2006 tripled in value. Right when the real estate market started to crash in 2006, all the surrounding areas of Irvine crashed, but Irvine was practically the only city that held its real estate value. Today the median home price in Irvine is $643,000.






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Old 03-31-2012, 11:31 AM
 
Location: Johns Creek, Georgia
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This is a chart made by a well respected broker in Irvine of predictions in home value in 2006. This chart never came true. The median home price in Irvine still remains at $643,000. Median home price in Irvine in 1995 was $265,000 and reach up to $745,000 at peak July, 2006. Irvine appreciated faster than its surrounding cities and got hurt the least during the 2006-2012 recession. Land value in Irvine trades at premium compared to its surrounding cities. Why? What made Irvine more special than the cities in Orange County?

Mr. Panda, Why are you talking about Irvine in a Johns Creek Real Estate thread?

I am not claiming that i see homes in Johns Creek tripling in value in 10 years like it did in Irvine. However, I cannot overlook all the similarities i see with Irvine 1996 and Johns Creek 2012. Back then, not many Californian locals knew how good Irvine was and the aerospace took real hit during the 1990 recession in California. Today Irvine is a branded city known across the country and internationally.

Many people who lived in Irvine in the 80s drove to Los Angeles for employment, similar to residents in Alpharetta and Johns Creek working in the city. Back then, Irvine was a upper middle class city populated predominately by white families. Today, the Irvine Spectrum is the largest employment center of Orange County where it used to be a ghost town during the 1990s recession. Today, what used to be a ghost town in Johns Creek Technology Park will emerge to become a major employment center to northern atlanta residents. Of course Alpharetta is also be a major employment center for northern atlanta residents today.

Johns Creek is different and special than all the other high sought after suburban cities in metro Atlanta like Alpharetta, Roswell, Sandy Springs, Milton, Suwanee, Peachtree City etc. I consider Johns Creek as the "unicorn" city of Georgia.

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Old 03-31-2012, 01:25 PM
 
Location: Johns Creek, Georgia
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Update 03/31/2012.

So far within the Lambert Cluster St. Marlo Country Club subdivision has the most homes sold of 11 homes as of 01/01/2012. Laurel Springs comes second with 8 homes sold. Year to date the Lambert HS cluster has more homes sold than the 3 JC school clusters.

Sold from 01/01/2012 - 03/31/2012
Northview homes sold - 27
Lambert homes sold - 70
Chattahoochee homes sold - 63
Johns Creek HS sold - 30

Highest price home sold:

School Cluster Subdivision Address: Sold Price
Lambert - Laurel Springs 6425 Haddington Ln $1,020,000
Northview - Monclair 130 Wood River Ct $950,000
Johns Creek HS - St. Ives 201 Southamton Cir $875,000
Chattahoochee Tuxford 975 Ransden Run $416,000

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Old 03-31-2012, 08:20 PM
 
Location: Johns Creek, Georgia
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I received this message thru reputations and I don't how to respond to you. You can send me a PM. Personally I think you are making a mistake moving to Irvine from Johns Creek, but a lot depends on where you are in your life. Johns Creek is an emerging city whereas Irvine is already a fully grown mature adult, whereas Johns Creek is a still a 5 year old baby. In my humble opinion, the real estate opportunities for the future lies here in Johns Creek over Irvine. I hold real estate broker license in both Georgia and California and I know the Irvine real estate market very well. Let me know how i can assist you.

"Hi Mr Panda. I've been following your thread. We are a Chinese-American couple who are leaving Johns Creek for Irvine of all places. We feel that with Atlanta's home values plummeting its best to get out now. Can you help us?"

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Old 03-31-2012, 08:24 PM
 
Location: Johns Creek, Georgia
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"I don't know if I feel pity for you or not. You so obviously want to be in Irvine. You made the wrong decision to invest in ATL real estate which is in freefall. GA will NEVER be CA. Metro ATL is in decline. I'm sorry for your mistake to move here."

I received this message thru reputations. Assuming you are not a troll, I would like to call you out and have a friendly debate with you. I have absolutely no regrets of moving to the Johns Creek area. I would even say that moving to the Johns Creek area was the best decision I've ever made second to deciding whom to marry. Today I am certain of this.

You are correct that GA will NEVER be CA, but you WRONG when made the statement that I made a wrong decision to invest in ATL real estate which is in freefall. The smart money sold our of Irvine real estate in 2006 and reinvested that money back into Johns Creek in 2011. Irvine is what is in the past and Johns Creek is what is in the future.
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Old 04-01-2012, 11:04 AM
 
Location: Johns Creek, Georgia
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Profile of Johns Creek: Why invest in Johns Creek?


Here are the top 10 wealthiest Georgia cities/areas followed by the percentage of households with incomes above $150,000: Berkeley's lake's population is less than 2000 and Milton's population is less than 20,000. For a major city, Johns Creek is the wealthiest city in the State of Georgia above the other city affluent cities: Sandy Springs, Alpharetta, Roswell, and Peachtree City.
  1. Berkeley Lake -- 41.23 percent
  2. Milton -- 36.94 percent
  3. Johns Creek -- 30.64 percent
  4. Skidaway Island -- 27.26 percent
  5. Dunwoody -- 26.58 percent
  6. Druid Hills -- 26.51 percent
  7. Sandy Springs -- 25.23 percent
  8. Alpharetta -- 23.75 percent
  9. Roswell -- 22.84 percent
  10. Peachtree City -- 21.98 percent

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Old 04-01-2012, 11:08 AM
 
Location: Johns Creek, Georgia
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50 Best Public High Schools - Atlanta Magazine 2012
There are around 500 public high schools in the state of Georgia. Three high school clusters make up with the city of Johns Creek and all the JC High schools are ranked among the top ten in Georiga.

Rank #1, #4, and #8 are three high schools that represent the new city of Johns Creek.

Best Public Georgia High School Rankings
1. Northview - #1 High School in Johns Creek
2. Walton
3. Dekalb School of the Arts
4. Chattahoocee HS - #4 High School in Johns Creek
5. Lassiter
6. Pope
7. Alpharetta
8. Johns Creek HS - #8 High School in Johns Creek
9. Milton
10. Starrs Mill
11. Brookwood
12. Harrison
13. McIntosh
14. Riverwood
15. Parkview
16. Lakeside
17. Peachtree Ridge
18. Chamblee Charter
19. Wheeler
20. Decatur
21. Roswell - Fulton
22. Sequoyah - Cherokee
23. Dunwoody - Dekalb
24. Etowah - Cherokee
25. Whitewater - Fayette
26. Collins Hill - Gwinnett
27. Kennesaw Mountain - Cobb
28. Mill Creek - Gwinnett
29. Centennial - Fulton
30. Creekview - Cherokee
31. Hillgrove -Cobb
32. Kell - Cobb
33. Woodstock - Cherokee
34. North Gwinnett - Gwinnett
35. Duluth - Gwinnett
36. Buford - Buford City
37. Union Grove - Henry
38. Grady - Atlanta
39. The School of the Arts at Carver - Atlanta
40. North Springs - Fulton
41. Norcross - Gwinnett
42. Druid Hills - Dekalb
43. Fayette County - Fayette
44. Grayson - Gwinnett
45. TEACH Charter - Fulton
46. Sprayberry - Cobb
47. Allatoona - Cobb
48. Cherokee - Cherokee
49. Dacula - Gwinnett
50. Sandy Creek - Fayette

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Old 04-01-2012, 11:14 AM
 
Location: Johns Creek, Georgia
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On a national level with cities with a population of more than 70,000, Johns Creek ranks #8 as the wealthiest city in the nation. 6 California cities made the top #15 list while only 2 GA cities made the list. More than 18% of Johns Creek residents make over $200,000 household income.

#1 Newport Beach, CA
#3 Pleasanton , CA
#5 Santa Monica, CA
#6 Mountain View, CA
#7 Thousand Oaks, CA
#8 Johns Creek, GA
#9 Sandy Springs, GA
#10 Naperville, IL
#15 Irvine, CA

... and yes.. believe it or not, Johns Creek residents are wealthier in terms of household income, net worth, and per capita income than the residents who live in Irvine, California.
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Old 04-01-2012, 11:58 AM
 
Location: Johns Creek, Georgia
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Back in 2009 when i first started to seriously research Johns Creek, there were only two new home subdivisions in JC. One was The Gates and the other was Autry Township. These were the only SFR subdivsion under $300,000. Back in 2009, homes in the gates was just sitting and I think they still had 140 more homes to build. Though there were some critisim to this subdivision, I knew that it would sell out due to its prime location in Johns Creek Technology Park. I could have easily just went in there and picked up a home for $250,000. Unfortunately today, I don't think you will be able to buy a new SFR subdivision selling in the mid to high $200 with a Johns Creek address. The only open land available to build in Johns Creek is the surrounding area of Shakerag Elementary school. Unfortunately the land here is expensive and subdivision built here are starting to go high end. My prediction is that any new subdivision that goes in there will be priced in from the $500ks - $600ks.



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Old 04-01-2012, 12:25 PM
 
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50 Best Public High Schools - Atlanta Magazine 2012
There are around 500 public high schools in the state of Georgia. Three high school clusters make up with the city of Johns Creek and all the JC High schools are ranked among the top ten in Georiga.

Rank #1, #4, and #8 are three high schools that represent the new city of Johns Creek.

Best Public Georgia High School Rankings
1. Northview - #1 High School in Johns Creek
2. Walton
3. Dekalb School of the Arts
4. Chattahoocee HS - #4 High School in Johns Creek
5. Lassiter
6. Pope
7. Alpharetta
8. Johns Creek HS - #8 High School in Johns Creek
9. Milton
10. Starrs Mill
11. Brookwood
12. Harrison
13. McIntosh
14. Riverwood
15. Parkview
16. Lakeside
17. Peachtree Ridge
18. Chamblee Charter
19. Wheeler
20. Decatur
21. Roswell - Fulton
22. Sequoyah - Cherokee
23. Dunwoody - Dekalb
24. Etowah - Cherokee
25. Whitewater - Fayette
26. Collins Hill - Gwinnett
27. Kennesaw Mountain - Cobb
28. Mill Creek - Gwinnett
29. Centennial - Fulton
30. Creekview - Cherokee
31. Hillgrove -Cobb
32. Kell - Cobb
33. Woodstock - Cherokee
34. North Gwinnett - Gwinnett
35. Duluth - Gwinnett
36. Buford - Buford City
37. Union Grove - Henry
38. Grady - Atlanta
39. The School of the Arts at Carver - Atlanta
40. North Springs - Fulton
41. Norcross - Gwinnett
42. Druid Hills - Dekalb
43. Fayette County - Fayette
44. Grayson - Gwinnett
45. TEACH Charter - Fulton
46. Sprayberry - Cobb
47. Allatoona - Cobb
48. Cherokee - Cherokee
49. Dacula - Gwinnett
50. Sandy Creek - Fayette

Remember, students in western Johns Creek attend #29 Centennial--a great high school as well.
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