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Old 08-07-2012, 11:13 AM
 
Location: Georgia
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Suburbanites don't live in the city.
Atlanta does pay for its own infrastructure, it is rebuilding its antiquated sewer system with a SPLOST. If it wasn't for Atlanta none of the 'fancy' suburbs would be here.
This. A thousand times this. The city that some suburbanites seem to like to hate on is the very reason their suburb is as big as it is. Just look at a map of the metro area half a century ago. It's not even remotely the same.
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Old 08-07-2012, 12:19 PM
 
Location: Kirkwood
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Just look at a map of the metro area half a century ago. It's not even remotely the same
North Fulton, Cherokee, and Forsyth Counties were cow pastures.
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Old 08-07-2012, 12:57 PM
 
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Gwinnett, North DeKalb and big chunks of Cobb were also cow pastures. A lot of folks can recall driving on 285 where Perimeter Mall is now and seeing cattle grazing up on the hill. Atlanta has grown at incredible speed.
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Old 08-07-2012, 01:28 PM
 
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Ouch. Metro Atlanta gets a credit downgrade from Moody's due to rejection of the transportation bill.

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From Moody's:
In our Credit Outlook released today, Moody’s announced that voter rejection of a 1% Special Purpose Local Option Sales Tax (T-SPLOST) in nine of 12 regions of the State of Georgia is a credit negative for those areas…, especially for Atlanta because of the city’s position as an economic hub, which could be hurt by the area’s current condition of infrastructure.

The Atlanta region needs major upgrades to its dated and limited transit system and congested roadways to maintain its long-term position as an influential economic center. The region will now be challenged to fund such projects on a local or state level, as the region had not formulated a specific contingency plan for identified projects if voters rejected the tax.

Moody’s awards metro Atlanta a ‘credit negative’ for TSPLOST failure
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Old 08-07-2012, 02:34 PM
 
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Ouch. Metro Atlanta gets a credit downgrade from Moody's due to rejection of the transportation bill.
The tax payers of Georgia didn't want government control of critical items like transportation. That's why the governor of the state is now solely directing which projects will be completed.

Moody's doesn't understand the Georgia taxpayer. They don't trust elected officials, hence Governor Deal will now, at his discretion, allocate projects.
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Old 08-07-2012, 02:36 PM
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The tax payers of Georgia didn't want government control of critical items like transportation. That's why the governor of the state is now solely directing which projects will be completed.

Moody's doesn't understand the Georgia taxpayer. They don't trust elected officials, hence Governor Deal will now, at his discretion, allocate projects.
Yes, but he doesn't have $7 billion to play with.
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Old 08-07-2012, 02:39 PM
 
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Who needs the gummint? We taxpayers can build our own roads anytime we'd like for a fraction of the cost.

Moreover, in the private sector we know there's not going to be any cheating or inefficiency or anybody getting favors because they know somebody.
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Old 08-07-2012, 02:44 PM
 
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Exactly, let the free market decide. The founding fathers would have built these roads by hand with garden hoes.
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Old 08-07-2012, 02:49 PM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA (Brookhaven)
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The tax payers of Georgia didn't want government control of critical items like transportation. That's why the governor of the state is now solely directing which projects will be completed.


Are you aware that the governor of the state IS the government?
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Old 08-07-2012, 03:03 PM
 
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Are you aware that the governor of the state IS the government?

Wait... so you are saying that control of transportation for the entire state is in one mans hands? And that same man is elected?

I think if that is so, then we can say the Georgia Taxpayer has said "We do not trust elected officials, unless the officials are the current Governor, and that Governor will retain sole and complete control over which statewide transportation projects are funded."

Let's let Moody's know that. I think they are confused. History shows GA governors to be free market Republicans, just like the founders were, so I'd expect some real progress.
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