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Old 06-06-2012, 08:48 AM
 
Location: Kirkwood
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Maybe the other jurisdictions are actually taking the time to put some thought into their list, instead of just throwing a bunch of projects on a list like a 5-year-old kid who just got $20 for his birthday and immediately thinks "hmmm....what can I spend this on?".........
Really? I have you know that Atlanta has had input from its citizens for over 6 months on how WE would like to see the money spent. WE discussed and voted in the NPUs and now each NPU gets a share of $16 million over 10 years to use in its boundaries as we see fit. Atlanta is listening to its citizens and will repave streets, fix and add sidewalks, add bike lanes, and other projects that help everyone.
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I think that speaks volumes about why many people in Cobb or Cherokee aren't wild about this plan and may not vote for it. They don't see that kind of solution being proposed, but they do hear about proposals for spending close to a BILLION dollars on a light rail line from Cumberland Mall to Atlanta.
Fine, we'll build a toll at I-75 at I-285 and you all can be your own region. Stop being so short sighted and selfish. Most of the people in the region cross county lines for work.
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Old 06-06-2012, 08:52 AM
 
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BeltLine Crosstown Streetcar route update.
North Ave or 10th St: Which is better for 'crosstown' streetcar route? - Midtown, GA Patch
Personally I think 10th street is better. It already has a large concentration of offices and provides connection to the Fed and Piedmont Park. 10th street is very congested though. Having the line on North Ave will help with redevelopment along the corridor.
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Old 06-06-2012, 09:00 AM
 
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Really? I have you know that Atlanta has had input from its citizens for over 6 months on how WE would like to see the money spent. WE discussed and voted in the NPUs and now each NPU gets a share of $16 million over 10 years to use in its boundaries as we see fit. Atlanta is listening to its citizens and will repave streets, fix and add sidewalks, add bike lanes, and other projects that help everyone.
OK- so it was a bunch of kids who are all anticipating getting $20 in their birthdays cards and dreaming about how to blow it.....
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Old 06-06-2012, 09:09 AM
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OK- so it was a bunch of kids who are all anticipating getting $20 in their birthdays cards and dreaming about how to blow it.....
Well, that's a pathetic non-response.
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Old 06-06-2012, 09:11 AM
 
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Well, that's a pathetic non-response.
If (and that's a big "if") the TIA passes, come back and see me in a few years- I guarantee that I'm right, and the list turns out to be a bunch of drivel, half of which never gets built, as "other projects that need attention" siphon away funds.
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Old 06-06-2012, 09:12 AM
 
Location: Kirkwood
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No, we actually worked with our elected officials to come up with our list. Did you even read the list or jump to wild conclusions? What is Cobb gonna do, build more fancy mast pole traffic lights?
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Old 06-06-2012, 09:31 AM
 
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Yes, I did see the list- it's a lot of "I think we should repave this street" and "I think we should put sidewalks here". Practically any street in Atlanta can use repaving or new sidewalks- that doesn't mean it's the best use of the available funds just because a few homeowners say it's needed and the elected officials agreed to put it on the list.

Having been involved in city government/politics for the past five years, I can't begin to tell you the number of "great ideas" to spend money that I've seen proposed and approved that aren't fully studied (correctly), that turn out to be complete wastes and don't achieve any results.
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Old 06-06-2012, 09:34 AM
 
Location: Kirkwood
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This is what the citizens wanted. Doesn't get any more democratic than that.
Another reason to add more transit for all you older baby boomers. You can't drive forever and modern cities are not designed for old people and other non-drivers.
A Case Study in a Senior-Friendly City - Commute - The Atlantic Cities
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Old 06-06-2012, 09:50 AM
 
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Hmmm....my mother lives in an active adult community with over 3,000 houses, and not a single bus or train anywhere nearby- yet somehow they all survive just fine.......
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Old 06-06-2012, 10:07 AM
 
Location: Kirkwood
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That's great that she can afford to live there. But what about the million others that do not want to live in a old folks home or can't afford, how do they get to the doctors of grocery store? Some do not want to inconvenience their kids or grandkids. This is gonna be your future Bob.
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