05-30-2012, 05:29 AM
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I don't think Atlantas core is bad . There are really some great walkable intown nieghborhoods. I i think u can find almost every housing style in the core. I really love glenwood park beautiful area..
05-30-2012, 06:41 AM
Location: Washington, DC
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DTL3000
Jealousy and envy of what, sweetheart?
LOL!
Exactly -- Atlanta is last on a list of "cities I'm envious of":
I'm envious of lower Manhattan's Italian, Chinese and vibrant gay neighborhoods, of Brooklyn's artistic and cultural funkiness, of South Beach's gorgeous waters and beautiful people, of San Francisco's steep hills, Mediterranean climate and live and let live attitude. And I'm actually jealous these cities aren't overrun with thugs with their pants on the ground hassling people for money, cursing at or shooting one another.
In the urban cores of those cities, the ratio of thugs to good people is very low, unlike Atlanta where they run rampant at Screen On the Green or Lenox Mall like they own the place.
The only thing hyper-linear about Atlanta is the huge puff of smoke being blown up City Data's chimney, as per usual.
05-30-2012, 06:49 AM
Location: St Simons Island and Atlanta, GA
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back2dc
LOL!
Exactly -- Atlanta is last on a list of "cities I'm envious of":
I'm envious of lower Manhattan's Italian, Chinese and vibrant gay neighborhoods, of Brooklyn's artistic and cultural funkiness, of South Beach's gorgeous waters and beautiful people, of San Francisco's steep hills, Mediterranean climate and live and let live attitude. And I'm actually jealous these cities aren't overrun with thugs with their pants on the ground hassling people for money, cursing at or shooting one another.
In the urban cores of those cities, the ratio of thugs to good people is very low, unlike Atlanta where they run rampant at Screen On the Green or Lenox Mall like they own the place.
The only thing hyper-lineal about Atlanta is the huge puff of smoke being blown up City Data's chimney, as per usual.
I really dont know why you waste your time. The regular posters on here know that when it comes to Atlanta, you are less than objective.
05-30-2012, 07:37 AM
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Bottom Line: The downtown area, specifically the area around Five Points and Underground is the inner city ghetto. You just can't have an inner city ghetto in your downtown area. I have never seen this phenomenon in any other city I've lived or visited. Since I've worked downtown, I've seen at least 5-10 instances in broad daylight of people getting arrested, with the handcuffs on them, getting pushed into paddywagons. That's an extremely embarrassing sight to have to witness in your downtown area, and something I've never seen before anywhere else. I hope to hell that no tourists have ever had to witness sights like that. I'm not even talking about all the vacant storefronts in the downtown area, or the atrocity that is Underground, which seem to be a very low priority in fixing. The city just doesn't seem to care about fixing downtown. They want to keep it a 'gritty inner city ghetto'. They don't seem to care about the loiterers, the homeless or the drug deals. The city doesn't care, locals who live outside the Perimeter could care less about having a thriving downtown. They're perfectly content to live in their gated communities in Alpharetta. Why are the Braves, the Hawks and until they moved, the Thrashers, having so much trouble with attendance? Because no one wants to go downtown. Unlike other regions of the country, where cities and counties all work as 1 region to promote their downtown cities, like Chicago or Boston, here we all work as a bunch of separate, distinct areas fighting for their own piece of the pie.
If any more evidence is needed about how the suburban areas of Atlanta feel towards their
downtown area, check out the web address of the tourism site of Bartow County.
Cartersville-Bartow County CVB
05-30-2012, 07:44 AM
Location: ATL
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Lol at the poster stating the trashers left because people did not want to visit downtown
05-30-2012, 07:57 AM
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Bottom Line: The downtown area, specifically the area around Five Points and Underground is the inner city ghetto. You just can't have an inner city ghetto in your downtown area. I have never seen this phenomenon in any other city I've lived or visited. Since I've worked downtown, I've seen at least 5-10 instances in broad daylight of people getting arrested, with the handcuffs on them, getting pushed into paddywagons. That's an extremely embarrassing sight to have to witness in your downtown area, and something I've never seen before anywhere else. I hope to hell that no tourists have ever had to witness sights like that. I'm not even talking about all the vacant storefronts in the downtown area, or the atrocity that is Underground, which seem to be a very low priority in fixing. The city just doesn't seem to care about fixing downtown. They want to keep it a 'gritty inner city ghetto'. They don't seem to care about the loiterers, the homeless or the drug deals. The city doesn't care, locals who live outside the Perimeter could care less about having a thriving downtown. They're perfectly content to live in their gated communities in Alpharetta. Why are the Braves, the Hawks and until they moved, the Thrashers, having so much trouble with attendance? Because no one wants to go downtown. Unlike other regions of the country, where cities and counties all work as 1 region to promote their downtown cities, like Chicago or Boston, here we all work as a bunch of separate, distinct areas fighting for their own piece of the pie.
If any more evidence is needed about how the suburban areas of Atlanta feel towards their
downtown area, check out the web address of the tourism site of Bartow County.
Cartersville-Bartow County CVB
Man, these are so ghetto.
05-30-2012, 08:06 AM
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I think the downtown core is the most genuine part of the city, it really proves wrong all the naysayers that always say Atlanta is just a suburban sprawling city.
There is the greatest mix of architecture from all time periods in the downtown area. There are still a significant amount of historic buildings there that are a gold mine to some developer with a brain.
But people forget that cities were created out of the neccessity of commerce and trade first and foremost. and Atlanta does that very well overall but if they just need to revitalize the neglected south downtown.
Urban cores are not exclusively meant for you to walk around and adore the area or even live there. It's about business and trade first.
I also like how people compare Atlanta to boston, DC and NYC SanFran. Cities that have had over 100+ years head start and/or were not purposely suppressed.
05-30-2012, 08:17 AM
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bernsee
If any more evidence is needed about how the suburban areas of Atlanta feel towards their
downtown area,
check out the web address of the tourism site of Bartow County.
Cartersville-Bartow County CVB
Well, that's childish. I'd be embarrassed by that if I lived there.
05-30-2012, 08:21 AM
Location: Kirkwood
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It is too squishied between the Downtown connector and residential areas to the east
Density can spill over GT and into West Midtown neighborhoods. Do not think that Midtown residential neighborhoods are gonna allow historic homes to be torn down for higher density, taller, multistory residential towers.
05-30-2012, 08:38 AM
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Density can spill over GT and into West Midtown neighborhoods. Do not think that Midtown residential neighborhoods are gonna allow historic homes to be torn down for higher density, taller, multistory residential towers .
For real.
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