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Old 05-31-2012, 01:01 PM
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Why do people constantly say Underground is dangerous? Everytime I have been, which is quiet often, it was filled with people shopping and eating at the food court. The stores always have people and the prices are good. Is the reason people say it is dangerous is because it is majority black? Everytime I visit there are tourist walking around.
Pretty much. I've never felt uncomfortable at the underground (except for the dude in the steve harvey suit menacing towards me lol), I just don't think that the folks who live in Alpharetta, and Buford are use to being around large groups of black folks from working class areas. My only issue with the underground is the fact that there's not really much there (I'm consistently told by people who visit the underground from out of state that it's a let down because there's really nothing there). But one idea I did like about the underground is implementing a casino in the area, I think that would be a great attraction if Georgia ever allows it.
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Old 05-31-2012, 01:41 PM
 
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I just don't think that the folks who live in Alpharetta, and Buford are use to being around large groups of black folks from working class areas.
Oh but those people say that those communities are so diverse racially, but not economically. There really isn't much to do there, but grab a bite to eat before a Braves game, shop for sneakers, or watch the Peach Drop.
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Old 05-31-2012, 02:45 PM
 
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This is why I think moving the city jail would be a good idea. I think developers would be mutch more interested in filling in those ugly surface parking lots if the jail was not there.
I agree.

It's strange because "Save downtown!" has been the battle cry of Atlanta civic boosters for 50 years. State, federal and local governments have poured massive investments into downtown. It's been given preferred status as a TAD. It has been the subject of endless promotions, master planning, bond issues, transportation upgrades, you name it.

Yet then they'll stick the jail there. Can you imagine the outcry if the city said, "Let's put the jail on that vacant lot at 10th & Peachtree!"

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Old 05-31-2012, 03:17 PM
 
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I agree.

It's strange because "Save downtown!" has been the battle cry of Atlanta civic boosters for 50 years. State, federal and local governments have poured massive investments into downtown. It's been given preferred status as a TAD. It has been the subject of endless promotions, master planning, bond issues, transportation upgrades, you name it.

Yet then they'll stick the jail there. Can you imagine the outcry if the city said, "Let's put the jail on that vacant lot at 10th & Peachtree!"

I know.

I think the city jail sould be moved to the area near the Federal Jail, in fact move the county jail there too and have one large prison complex completly walled in.
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Old 05-31-2012, 04:00 PM
 
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- One Hour - One City: Atlanta - 5 Points! - - SkyscraperPage Forum

So let me get this straight, it's bad because many people were dress in urban fashion, and your slurring mothers or possible mothers as Baby Mommas. And because they weren't the demographic you want them to be rather they had nothing better to do.

I don't believe that was the full story, so folks randomly call you a slur for ordering a cup of coffee at the McDonalds.
So what you are saying is that black folks are incapable of being racist unless provoked by someone being racist towards them?

Nope, I wasn't doing anything. I was minding my own business just hanging out downtown when this idiot started mouthing off about the white trash that was in his way preventing him from ordering. He even had the staff yelling at him to leave(not because of the white trash thing but he was doing other idiotic things) and I wouldn't have been surprised if the cops showed up soon after I'd left because I heard one of the staff threaten to call them several times.

That's just one of a few incidents. I had one guy ask me "how many people I have arrested" one day. Oh, I get it. I'm white so I must be a cop since white people don't belong south of Alabama St. Hah! Clever.

Anyway, until people like you realize that the gripe is about the CLASS of people and not the RACE of people who hang out around 5 Points, Atlanta will continue to have this problem. Too many people shove their heads in the sand and/or cry "Racism!" when someone criticizes anything to do with "urban culture." And since when did low rent lowlifes claim a monopoly on the word "urban"? Ghetto maybe, but not urban. When someone says "rural" no one automatically thinks of redneck white trash.
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Old 05-31-2012, 04:07 PM
 
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So what you are saying is that black folks are incapable of being racist unless provoked by someone being racist towards them?

Nope, I wasn't doing anything. I was minding my own business just hanging out downtown when this idiot started mouthing off about the white trash that was in his way preventing him from ordering. He even had the staff yelling at him to leave(not because of the white trash thing but he was doing other idiotic things) and I wouldn't have been surprised if the cops showed up soon after I'd left because I heard one of the staff threaten to call them several times.

That's just one of a few incidents. I had one guy ask me "how many people I have arrested" one day. Oh, I get it. I'm white so I must be a cop since white people don't belong south of Alabama St. Hah! Clever.

Anyway, until people like you realize that the gripe is about the CLASS of people and not the RACE of people who hang out around 5 Points, Atlanta will continue to have this problem. Too many people shove their heads in the sand and/or cry "Racism!" when someone criticizes anything to do with "urban culture." And since when did low rent lowlifes claim a monopoly on the word "urban"? Ghetto maybe, but not urban. When someone says "rural" no one automatically thinks of redneck white trash.
“It’s not race, it’s class!” « Abagond
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Old 05-31-2012, 04:13 PM
 
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Somehow I knew you'd make that argument. Can't you express your own ideas instead of regurgitate some racist blogger(oh I forgot they can't be racist because he/she's black) with a chip on their shoulder?

And that post is completely irrelevant.
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Old 05-31-2012, 04:18 PM
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So what you are saying is that black folks are incapable of being racist unless provoked by someone being racist towards them?

Nope, I wasn't doing anything. I was minding my own business just hanging out downtown when this idiot started mouthing off about the white trash that was in his way preventing him from ordering. He even had the staff yelling at him to leave(not because of the white trash thing but he was doing other idiotic things) and I wouldn't have been surprised if the cops showed up soon after I'd left because I heard one of the staff threaten to call them several times.

That's just one of a few incidents. I had one guy ask me "how many people I have arrested" one day. Oh, I get it. I'm white so I must be a cop since white people don't belong south of Alabama St. Hah! Clever.

Anyway, until people like you realize that the gripe is about the CLASS of people and not the RACE of people who hang out around 5 Points, Atlanta will continue to have this problem. Too many people shove their heads in the sand and/or cry "Racism!" when someone criticizes anything to do with "urban culture." And since when did low rent lowlifes claim a monopoly on the word "urban"? Ghetto maybe, but not urban. When someone says "rural" no one automatically thinks of redneck white trash.
And im sure the fact that a good portion of the people who hang around that area are mentally ill plays no role in this. Also, maybe you just look like a cop?
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Old 05-31-2012, 05:50 PM
 
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Somehow I knew you'd make that argument. Can't you express your own ideas instead of regurgitate some racist blogger(oh I forgot they can't be racist because he/she's black) with a chip on their shoulder?
There you go again, DTL. You are becoming the Charlie Brown to Abagond's Lucy. It doesn't matter how many times you come running up trying to kick that field goal, the ball will be gone.

Personally I would say the situation in south downtown would be approximately the same regardless of whether the folks hanging out there were whites, blacks, Asians, Latinos, Samoans, Klingons or some combination thereof. Gold teeth are gold teeth, no matter who's wearing them.

I truly love our city and would enjoy nothing more than seeing a resurgence of this area. Not long ago we were in Seattle, a city I view as more or less one of our peers. While it's far from perfect, I must say that walking around in their downtown is totally different experience from ours. Can you imagine Atlanta if we had something like that?

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Old 05-31-2012, 06:19 PM
 
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So what you are saying is that black folks are incapable of being racist unless provoked by someone being racist towards them?

Nope, I wasn't doing anything. I was minding my own business just hanging out downtown when this idiot started mouthing off about the white trash that was in his way preventing him from ordering. He even had the staff yelling at him to leave(not because of the white trash thing but he was doing other idiotic things) and I wouldn't have been surprised if the cops showed up soon after I'd left because I heard one of the staff threaten to call them several times.

That's just one of a few incidents. I had one guy ask me "how many people I have arrested" one day. Oh, I get it. I'm white so I must be a cop since white people don't belong south of Alabama St. Hah! Clever.

Anyway, until people like you realize that the gripe is about the CLASS of people and not the RACE of people who hang out around 5 Points, Atlanta will continue to have this problem. Too many people shove their heads in the sand and/or cry "Racism!" when someone criticizes anything to do with "urban culture." And since when did low rent lowlifes claim a monopoly on the word "urban"? Ghetto maybe, but not urban. When someone says "rural" no one automatically thinks of redneck white trash.
Preach it brother DTL!
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