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Old 05-10-2012, 12:10 PM
 
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Your generation put us in a debt ridden finicial hell...
So sorry about that. If you'd please give us back MARTA, Hartsfield Jackson, the interstate highways, the hospitals, parks, museums, skyscrapers, sports facilities, universities, Lake Lanier, and, well, just about everything else you've grown up with, you could start over with a clean slate.
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Old 05-10-2012, 12:43 PM
 
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I don't call your generation "lazy" when you can't find a job in a down economy.

I call you "lazy" when you won't go find a part-time job during high school to help pay for your own car, or gas for your parents' car, because you're too busy playing the latest version of "Grand Theft Auto" or "HALO" on the X-Box that your parents bought you. And don't give me the "there's no jobs to be had" line- you can cut your neighbors' grass if that's what it takes.

I call you "lazy" when you need to take a year off after high school or after college to "find yourself" by backpacking across Europe with a bunch of your friends.

I call you "lazy" when you decide to major in "gay and lesbian studies" or "French romantic literature" and wonder why you can't find a job other than at The GAP. Maybe if you majored in something that had a real-world application, or (god forbid) learned a trade, you wouldn't have it so rough.
I had a job in high school and I went to school for a useful degree. I am one of the lucky Gen Y who was able to get a good job. I am also 26. Hardly anyone in gen y is still in high school at this point.
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Old 05-10-2012, 12:45 PM
 
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So sorry about that. If you'd please give us back MARTA, Hartsfield Jackson, the interstate highways, the hospitals, parks, museums, skyscrapers, sports facilities, universities, Lake Lanier, and, well, just about everything else you've grown up with, you could start over with a clean slate.

You can't ride the coat tails of the greatest generation ; the ones who fought in WW2 and weathered the great depression and then take credit for stuff that got started before you even turned 25. Nice try though. That gen learned how to handle a dollar and live in their means. Boomers just coasted off that wealth and added debt.
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Old 05-10-2012, 12:49 PM
 
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You sound like someone with no motivation or ideas. And you just want to blame everybody else for your problems. That is probably what is going to eventually make the U.S. more like Europe, with entitlements and socialism. It's working out great for them! Just ask Greece, France, or Spain.

Instead of complaining about the world, why don't you get off your behind and make something that people want? Or carve a niche for yourself?

I'm not that much older than you. I'm part of "Generation X." You know, the slackers. We weren't supposed to amount to much, we were a bunch of deadbeats who hated the world and just didn't care. Then we helped create the best economy this country has ever seen. And we'll do it again.

People who seriously can't find jobs aren't lazy. The problem is, too many people would rather sponge off others or collect unemployment rather than hustling bagging groceries, working construction, or some other kind of menial job. I don't necessarily blame the kids that much because they are products of their environments. Coddled by parents and getting trophies just for showing up.

Welcome to the world. We don't have a trophy for you. However, a few are still available for people who actually win.

You are essentially in the same boat as Gen Y. When these boomers are all sucking us dry on Social Security we are gonna be stuck with all their debt. BTW I'm one of the lucky gen y that got a good job out of college. You gen x guyslucked out. The bubble was huge or growing when you guys hit the workforce. I mean the fact you mention construction jobs as a viable option tells me you had it more options and better economy.
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Old 05-10-2012, 01:24 PM
 
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You are essentially in the same boat as Gen Y
Maybe so. Perhaps it is more a matter of personal character than the generation I am part of that I don't blame everybody else for the problems we are facing. Every generation has to pick up the pieces from the one that preceded them. And every generation tries to do the best it can with the knowledge it has, just like we will.

How do you think it will feel if some pissant generation that follows us just blames us for whatever we end up getting wrong? We WILL get some things wrong!
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Old 05-10-2012, 01:27 PM
 
Location: Marietta, GA
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Your generation put us in a debt ridden finicial hell and then have the nerve to call us " lazy" when we can't get a decent job. That is not something to boast about.
I'm 47 and my generation is just coming to power, although I guess you do have a point with Barack Obama having amassed the greatest amount of new national debt and largest annual deficits of any President to date during his 3.5 years in office.

The irony of it all is that when people like me discuss this and advocate living within our means, the cries go out to raise taxes, not to bring spending in line. The increase in spending and raiding of the Social Security trust fund is something that I blame the previous couple of generations for doing. Although both parties are to blame, the Democrats controlled both houses of Congress pretty much from 1952 to 1994, with a brief exception when the Senate switched hands in 1980 for a few years.
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Old 05-10-2012, 03:32 PM
 
Location: Vinings
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I'm 47 and my generation is just coming to power, although I guess you do have a point with Barack Obama having amassed the greatest amount of new national debt and largest annual deficits of any President to date during his 3.5 years in office.

The irony of it all is that when people like me discuss this and advocate living within our means, the cries go out to raise taxes, not to bring spending in line. The increase in spending and raiding of the Social Security trust fund is something that I blame the previous couple of generations for doing. Although both parties are to blame, the Democrats controlled both houses of Congress pretty much from 1952 to 1994, with a brief exception when the Senate switched hands in 1980 for a few years.

Let's not forget to thank Dubya Bush who magically turned surplus to deficit. He dug an enormous hole, and compromised our economy and way of living with his war-mongering. His corporate buddies looted America's coffers. Many don't understand how close we were to the brink of financial destruction. The current debt crisis was not created out of a vacuum. Thanks Dubya.
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Old 05-10-2012, 04:50 PM
 
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I don't call your generation "lazy" when you can't find a job in a down economy.

I call you "lazy" when you won't go find a part-time job during high school to help pay for your own car, or gas for your parents' car, because you're too busy playing the latest version of "Grand Theft Auto" or "HALO" on the X-Box that your parents bought you. And don't give me the "there's no jobs to be had" line- you can cut your neighbors' grass if that's what it takes.

I call you "lazy" when you need to take a year off after high school or after college to "find yourself" by backpacking across Europe with a bunch of your friends.

I call you "lazy" when you decide to major in "gay and lesbian studies" or "French romantic literature" and wonder why you can't find a job other than at The GAP. Maybe if you majored in something that had a real-world application, or (god forbid) learned a trade, you wouldn't have it so rough.
Great to see another tread getting off topic...

I just wanted to say that I am in Uni at the moment and have never has a job (hopefully getting a great internship next week). However, my parents gave me the option of going to Emory or go to UGA and receive some money. I have started a small used book business and invested the rest. The only thing my parents pay for me is the tuition, everything else I pay (no student debts). In my free time I volunteer at temple and some local charities. True, I spend about 1/4 of the year abroad, but am i lazy? I know that it is competitive out there, and that in the future I need to support my family and my parents (they will never go into a retirement house if they cannot live by themselves anymore). I do not think many people realize just how competitive it really is.

There are a lot of generalizations being made here. I believe that a lazy kid is a by product of bad parenting (who is paying for that gap year or useless degree?) as well as the "kids" themselves (they are adults, they are the master of their own destiny).

If I can find a good stable job abroad i'm gone.
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Old 05-10-2012, 05:42 PM
 
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Going back on topic, it seem the city has increased the density of the project and taken out a future tax base by rezoning the old hospital property from O&I to residential and open spaces (no active recreation at the moment, something we need).

Heneghan’s Dunwoody Blog: Questions are being raised on Renaissance project - density goes up and meeting planned for Thursday
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Old 05-10-2012, 05:51 PM
 
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Dunwoody needs a nightlife area.
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