Atlanta's suburbs continue to become increasingly sophisticated (Roswell, Alpharetta: authority, transportation)

[gtjared]

Originally Posted by jsvh

What am I expecting?

I believe he is saying that you are expecting too much from netdragon.

[jsvh]

Ah. Thanks

[AnsleyPark]

Originally Posted by arjay57

What about all the gazillions of dollars in state handouts to the city of Atlanta for rebuilding Ivan Allen, 5th Street, 10th Street, 14th Street, 17th Street, Marietta St., Centennial Park Dr, Spring St., Northside Dr, the downtown Connector, etc., etc.?

Not to mention the Georgia Congress Center, Centennial Olympic Park, state roads, the location of the capitol, farming subsidies... Lord. The list goes on.

[netdragon]

Originally Posted by jsvh

Read the article. They are not saying inner ring suburbs like the street car suburbs that have now turned around, they are saying inner ring like 1950s suburbs like Northlake area where I grew up that has fallen off in the last decade.

I read it and feel that the article is just picking certain cities to fit an inaccurate or at least exaggerated premise. Many 1950s inner ring suburbs throughout the nation are starting to do really well or doing better than they were the last decade. It really depends on timing of sprawl and how active the areas have been towards urban renewal, whether they participated in their core city's renewal, and the sheer amount of blighted land in the metro area. For instance, in the Hartford area, they built a greenbelt. Ignoring Atlanta, even, some examples I can think of right off the top of my head are:
West Hartford, CT
Manchester, CT
East Hartford, CT
Colonie, NY
Levittown, NY
Smyrna, GA
Pasadena, CA

[jsvh]

100% of cities do not need to fit criteria for a trend to be a trend.

[netdragon]

Originally Posted by jsvh

100% of cities do not need to fit criteria for a trend to be a trend.

I guess. To be honest, I haven't been to most metros in the country, so I can't really comment, other than what I've seen on the East Coast, Texas, and the West Coast, where most inner cores have followed the revitalization in the inner city. For instance, many growing metros like Dallas, NYC, Atlanta, LA, Boston, seem to buck this "trend". On the other side, there are metros that are hurting, especially in the midwest, like Buffalo and St Louis. Half the inner core suburbs of St Louis seemed to be in really horrible shape. There may actually be more of them national that are doing poor than the ones doing well.

I mentioned a few Hartford suburbs. However, Hartford is an oddity because the inner core suburbs may have kept going downhill due to sprawl. It was actually sprawling worse than Atlanta at one time, and in the 80s gangs were moving into the inner suburbs. However, the state added a greenbelt by buying up land in the outer metro to prevent sprawl, which almost overnight doubled home prices in the Hartford metro and forced redevelopment for the inner metro and young families - often from the wealthier suburbs - to move into blighted areas because that was all they could afford. During that, the gangs moved out of the inner suburbs.

[10 feet tall]

Originally Posted by netdragon

I read it and feel that the article is just picking certain cities to fit an inaccurate or at least exaggerated premise. Many 1950s inner ring suburbs throughout the nation are starting to do really well or doing better than they were the last decade. It really depends on timing of sprawl and how active the areas have been towards urban renewal, whether they participated in their core city's renewal, and the sheer amount of blighted land in the metro area. For instance, in the Hartford area, they built a greenbelt. Ignoring Atlanta, even, some examples I can think of right off the top of my head are:
West Hartford, CT
Manchester, CT
East Hartford, CT
Colonie, NY
Levittown, NY
Smyrna, GA
Pasadena, CA

Netdragon, do you live in Smyrna or are you a developer there? Seems like you are giving Smyrna the subtle plug wherever possible. Nothing wrong with that, just curious. Full disclosure and all.

[netdragon]

Originally Posted by 10 feet tall

Netdragon, do you live in Smyrna or are you a developer there? Seems like you are giving Smyrna the subtle plug wherever possible. Nothing wrong with that, just curious. Full disclosure and all.

Live. I own investment property in Atlanta and Smyrna, so no favoritism from an investment perspective. My main area is software engineering. I just really like Smyrna.

I'm not as much a fan of Cobb county politics, though. I think the domination of the tea-party type people is about to die a quick death when Cumberland's population increases soon by 30,000 or more millenials. Then the conservatives will lose another seat on the council because Bob Ott will be out. Btw, for those who ask why I don't just move to Atlanta to avoid Cobb politics, Atlanta has its own issues. I'm keeping an eye on NW Atlanta and if Cobb never gets it's head out of its * when it comes to transit, I could wind up around Marietta Blvd someday, inside the N. Atlanta High and Sutton school district since they are about the same as Smyrna schools anyway, if not a little better.

I just think things are going to change relatively soon in Cobb due to all the millennial population moving in.

[10 feet tall]

Originally Posted by netdragon

Live. I own investment property in Atlanta and Smyrna, so no favoritism from an investment perspective. My main area is software engineering. I just really like Smyrna.

I'm not as much a fan of Cobb county politics, though. I think the domination of the tea-party type people is about to die a quick death when Cumberland's population increases soon by 30,000 or more millenials. Then the conservatives will lose another seat on the council because Bob Ott will be out. Btw, for those who ask why I don't just move to Atlanta to avoid Cobb politics, Atlanta has its own issues. I'm keeping an eye on NW Atlanta and if Cobb never gets it's head out of its * when it comes to transit, I could wind up around Marietta Blvd someday, inside the N. Atlanta High and Sutton school district since they are about the same as Smyrna schools anyway, if not a little better.

I just think things are going to change relatively soon in Cobb due to all the millennial population moving in.

That's cool. I hear you.

[arjay57]

Dunwoody is upping the bar.

55 new townhomes, no multi-family and no more than rentals.

55 townhomes approved on Chamblee Dunwoody Road - Reporter Newspapers