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Old 05-08-2012, 11:07 PM
 
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Atlanta vs. Dallas - Atlanta Business Chronicle
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Old 05-08-2012, 11:41 PM
 
Location: Georgia native in McKinney, TX
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Great read. As a now 8 year resident of the DFW area and a home grown greater Atlantan, I can say he is pretty spot on. The one thing he did not mention: The new Cowboys stadium, for all its glory, is in Arlington, a good twenty miles west of downtown Dallas. It is not near any DART line. It is not far from the Rangers baseball stadium, the Victory Park he mentions is supposed to be a world class entertainment district connecting the two but it is on mothballs like some of the big projects in Atlanta.

The city of Dallas dropped the ball when Jerry Jones went looking for a site for the Cowboys. They previously played in Texas stadium which was actually in the city of Irving but right on its border with Dallas. now the Cowboys are actually closer to Fort Worth than they are Dallas. There was a push to locate the stadium in Fair Park which has the great grounds for the Texas State Fair, the mother of all state fairs every October. It has one of the largest collections of art deco buildings on the planet. Putting the stadium there would have put it on two DART lines and revitalized a part of town that desperately needs it. Fair Park is to the east/southeast of downtown, about where Grant Park is in relation to Atlanta and the surrounding community is not doing as well as Grant Park: Think more gritty and industrial.... maybe Bankhead or the area between AUC and Turner Field.

Dallas and Atlanta are very similar in many regards, but hats off to the leadership in Atlanta that has kept all the pro stadiums in the central city.
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Old 05-08-2012, 11:48 PM
 
Location: Georgia native in McKinney, TX
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Edit: Got Victory Park and Glory Park confused. Glory Park is the entertainment district on mothballs near the ballparks in Arlington. Victory Park is a plaza connecting the AA center (home of the NBA Mavericks and NHL Stars... well Dallas held on to their NHL team, so chalk up one for Dallas, but I am wandering off subject...) with a midtown like booming area just north and west of downtown. It is a pretty happening place, sort of like if the energy of midtown were built around Phillips arena. Perhaps development of the gulch could rival (or supersede this). But I'll take Centennial Park anyday.
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Old 05-09-2012, 06:01 AM
 
Location: Washington, DC
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As usual for Atlanta, hyperbole brushes over reality. The author tries to claim that only Atlanta has hosted both the Super Bowl and the Olympics.

Ever hear of a place called Los Angeles? It hosted the Super Bowl seven times! Whoops don't let little things called facts get in the way. Their Olympic games in 1984 were also not a debacle like the '96 Olympics.

And yes, DC has not hosted either, but I'm not a huge sports buff. But I'm not going to make up facts to twist the truth around either

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Old 05-09-2012, 06:16 AM
 
Location: ATL
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As usual for Atlanta, hyperbole brushes over reality. The author tries to claim that only Atlanta has hosted both the Super Bowl and the Olympics.

Ever hear of a place called Los Angeles? It hosted the Super Bowl seven times! Whoops don't let little things called facts get in the way. Their Olympic games in 1984 were also not a debacle like the '96 Olympics.

And yes, DC has not hosted either, but I'm not a huge sports buff. But I'm not going to make up facts to twist the truth around.
When are you moving down? You are in the atl forum more than me
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Old 05-09-2012, 08:53 AM
 
Location: ๏̯͡๏﴿ Gwinnett-That's a Civil Matter-County
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The article was rubbish.




Seriously.


I know Dallas is hot and not as green-looking but it has much lower unemployment and never had anywhere close to the same decline in the housing market.

It never had both the olympics and the superbowl, blah blah blah. What a crock. That was so 20 years ago and if anything it illustrates how there was a complete and utter failure to manage the rapid growth afterwards. They should consider themselves lucky.

Dallas has no train to the airport? Um, YES.
http://www.dart.org/maps/printrailmap.asp
Gimme a break.
Dallas has 2 airports and population lives much closer to them. Look at a map.

No recreation?
Um hello. There's large lakes all over DFW and speaking of maps, there's dedicated bike trails leading from downtown dallas alllll the way out to it's farthest suburbs and there's more of them than here*.

Clearly the main point of this article was to plug the unfair transportation tax.



* Google maps bicycling overlay

Last edited by cittic10; 05-09-2012 at 09:02 AM.. Reason: Dallas DOES have a subway.
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Old 05-09-2012, 09:03 AM
 
Location: ATL
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Light rail sucks
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Old 05-09-2012, 09:21 AM
 
Location: Kirkwood
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If hartsfield-jackson was on the northside, it would not be the suburban oasis it is now. Dallas has a lot more toll roads, something that won't fly in Georgia.
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Old 05-09-2012, 09:46 AM
 
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Light rail sucks
This.
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Old 05-09-2012, 11:16 AM
 
Location: Georgia native in McKinney, TX
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The article was rubbish.




Seriously.


I know Dallas is hot and not as green-looking but it has much lower unemployment and never had anywhere close to the same decline in the housing market.

It never had both the olympics and the superbowl, blah blah blah. What a crock. That was so 20 years ago and if anything it illustrates how there was a complete and utter failure to manage the rapid growth afterwards. They should consider themselves lucky.

Dallas has no train to the airport? Um, YES.
DART.org - DART Rail System Map
Gimme a break.
Dallas has 2 airports and population lives much closer to them. Look at a map.

No recreation?
Um hello. There's large lakes all over DFW and speaking of maps, there's dedicated bike trails leading from downtown dallas alllll the way out to it's farthest suburbs and there's more of them than here*.

Clearly the main point of this article was to plug the unfair transportation tax.



* Google maps bicycling overlay
I have been here 8 years and Dallas does lack in many of these areas. Yeah, there are some hot lakes that last summer you couldn't use because they were so low you would ruin a boat by hitting the submerged trees that were exposed.

A 5-6 hour drive will get you to Galveston beach. Not worth the time or effort. You have to drive 12 or more to get to South Padre, might as well drive the same hours to Pensacola. Mountains? A 5-6 hour drive to Arkansas and the Ozarks which are nothing like the Appalachians. Otherwise an all day drive to New Mexico or Colorado.

DART has just opened to Love Field, is still some years away before going to DFW. From the origin of most locals, it would be ten times the hassle to take DART to DFW, nothing like the ease of using MARTA. ATL is more convenient to most of Atlanta than DFW is to most of the metroplex.

Housing has fared better but Dallas never got a boom like Atlanta in the 90s and early 2000s from which to bust as hard. It is more like Atlanta has come back to where Dallas was all along.

Yes, there are some bike trails here and there. Nothing to compare to the Silver Comet Trail. Nothing in Dallas is similar to what the Beltline will be as well.

Dallas has NOTHING to compare to the Chattahoochee National River Parks, nothing to compare to Kennesaw Mountain National Battlefield Park, nothing to compare to Stone Mountain. Dallas has a Six Flags, Atlanta has a Six Flags, Dallas has water parks, Atlanta has water parks. Dallas has malls and movie theaters, so does Atlanta. But the natural beauty in all of metro Atlanta and in both the access to beaches and mountains within a short drive.... well Dallas loses here BIG TIME.
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