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Old 06-11-2012, 12:10 AM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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Should schools cut sports or charge fees to help balance the budget? I know a couple of the big districts are having financial problems.

New study shows school sports improve grades, all while districts wrangle with cuts | Prep Rally - Yahoo! Sports
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Old 06-11-2012, 12:28 AM
 
Location: Savannah GA
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I've never understood the correlation between cutting sports and cutting budgets. Most coaches are certified teachers first, quite often in academic subjects, and are simply paid very VERY small supplements to coach a sport. And the sports themselves are almost completely funded by player fees, gate receipts and booster organizations that raise funds independently. So where is the cost savings to the general fund budget? None!
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Old 06-11-2012, 02:44 AM
 
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Seems like if the shool has a decent sports program with local attendance, the sports can support themselves or even feed money into the coffers for other programs, though I think most sports keep revenue to themselves. At least within the sports budget. I'm not sure about high schools sports, but I know that in colleges most schools have a separate budget for sports. So even though revenue from big college football games may not go to research or academics, it allows the school to fund sports that wouldn't otherwise be self-sufficient like girls volleball, swimming, etc.
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Old 06-11-2012, 02:55 AM
 
Location: Savannah GA
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^^^ You're correct ATLTJL: Even at the high school level, the big ticket sports like football and basketball pretty much pay the way for all the lesser sports. But again, the question is: how does eliminating competitive sports lessen the cost of taxpayer-funded public education? Answer: it does not.
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Old 06-11-2012, 04:51 AM
 
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I've never understood the correlation between cutting sports and cutting budgets. Most coaches are certified teachers first, quite often in academic subjects, and are simply paid very VERY small supplements to coach a sport. And the sports themselves are almost completely funded by player fees, gate receipts and booster organizations that raise funds independently. So where is the cost savings to the general fund budget? None!
I am not a fan of cutting sports altogether, but keep in mind that the expenses are far greater than you are listing, particularly for the most financially stressed school systems. There are schools, where even for the revenue sports of football and basketball, there is very little financial support from the families of the boys. In DeKalb, for example, middle school sports, which are limited to just a couple per school, cost about 360,000 a year -- uniforms, equipment, transportation, etc.

One of the reasons I would hate to see sports cut in DeKalb, is because there are a handful of schools where either the sport could be funded by a booster club or the community, but most schools couldn't pull it off. Clayton tried to turn middle schools back over to Parks and Rec and that didn't work out.

DeKalb is such a budgetary mess that it is hard to know exactly what is being spent on high school sports -- but keep in mind that most sports are non-revenue -- track and field, cross country, swimming etc. Title IX, rightfully requires that schools offer equal opportunities for girls as boys and football makes that a pretty high bar.


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Seems like if the shool has a decent sports program with local attendance, the sports can support themselves or even feed money into the coffers for other programs, though I think most sports keep revenue to themselves. At least within the sports budget. I'm not sure about high schools sports, but I know that in colleges most schools have a separate budget for sports. So even though revenue from big college football games may not go to research or academics, it allows the school to fund sports that wouldn't otherwise be self-sufficient like girls volleball, swimming, etc.
Right, but football is very expensive and for most colleges isn't actually a money maker -- have you ever been to a football game at a small DI or DII or DIII school? Often, there just aren't many fans in the stadium.

Very interesting article here..
Olympics 2012: As colleges struggle to support non-revenue sports, the United States’s Olympic future is threatened - The Washington Post
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Old 06-11-2012, 05:04 AM
 
Location: Macon, GA
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The costs of sports also increases for those schools outside of Atlanta. In the rest of the state, many teams travel 50 or 100 miles for in district contests. That adds up.

Really though, while leaders threaten to cut sports to get constituents to pay attention, it's usually an idle threat. The savings wouldn't be tremendous and the community would have a complete meltdown. You would see class sizes increase to 40, the arts decimated, 4 day school weeks, layoffs, and teachers furloughed 25 days before the football team would even be considered on the chopping block in most districts in this state.
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Old 06-11-2012, 04:13 PM
 
Location: Savannah GA
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really though, while leaders threaten to cut sports to get
constituents to pay attention, it's usually an idle threat. The
savings wouldn't be tremendous and the community would have a complete meltdown
^^^ this!!!
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