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Old 06-15-2012, 11:37 AM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA (Dunwoody)
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Chamblee has only annexed residential areas when requested too by the citizens of those areas.

The real worry is how bad a shape is DeKalb going to be in for the next X years? And whether a city, whatever city, can insulate residents from the issues that is going to cause?.
I think that unless these new cities find a way to get their own school systems all of DeKalb is going to look like South DeKalb in the next 10-20 years. IMO, if housing had not collapsed the stampede would have occurred already. I will probably be able to get my oldest through this system before it totally collapses, but either I will send my youngest to private school or we'll be getting out. I'm just stunned at the notion of higher property taxes for even larger class sizes. Either these people are insane or they think we are. They will continue playing race politics until everybody with a functioning brain stem leaves the county.
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Old 06-15-2012, 11:38 AM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA (Sandy Springs)
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Right only the residents of the area get to vote -- Doraville has tried (twice?) to annex an island between it and Dunwoody and it has failed twice. If Doraville residents got to vote, it would have probably passed.

DeKalb is there already -- bottom of the barrel and the school system is probably the worse managed in the state. DeKalb is 85 million short for next year and Fulton is hiring teachers, giving step increases to those teachers and not raising taxes. DeKalb is looking at a 1-2 mil tax increase. We will be paying more and getting less.
Well the proposed city of Brookhaven will not be running any schools so that won't fix anything related to Dekalb schools or taxes supporting that.
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Old 06-15-2012, 01:25 PM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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Well the proposed city of Brookhaven will not be running any schools so that won't fix anything related to Dekalb schools or taxes supporting that.
No. The city will be over parks, roads, zoning, and I think they are adding a small police force of off duty Dekalb Co. cops.
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Old 06-18-2012, 02:18 PM
 
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I will probably be voting for it. It is pretty split among the street signs in people's yards. If nothing else, I'll probably see a little higher property value as a result.
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Old 06-18-2012, 07:59 PM
 
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If Brookhaven becomes a city, I wonder what would happen if they started annexing parts of Buckhead. Is that even legal?
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Old 06-18-2012, 08:47 PM
 
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If Brookhaven becomes a city, I wonder what would happen if they started annexing parts of Buckhead. Is that even legal?
Buckhead would become there own city before they would ever let Brookhaven anex apart of it. And that is very unlikey to happen.
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Old 06-18-2012, 10:27 PM
 
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If Brookhaven becomes a city, I wonder what would happen if they started annexing parts of Buckhead. Is that even legal?
No.
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Old 06-18-2012, 10:53 PM
 
Location: Georgia native in McKinney, TX
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No Georgia city can annex any part of another city. An existing city would have to give up their cityhood first or de-annex a portion of their boundaries first before another city could annex the whole or a part. When Augusta and Richmond county merged last decade, the independent cities of Blythe and Hephzibah remained separate cities untouched by the merger.

Bibb City was the only other incorporated town in Muscogee County when Columbus and Muscogee merged in the 60s or 70s. It did dis-incorporate some years later and merge into Columbus. The small city of Elizabeth existed in Cobb County decades ago, most of the area north of Kennestone Hospital that used to be Elizabeth has been annexed into Marietta, but that was after the city of Elizabeth ceased to exist.

Every example I can think of is of a much larger city taking over what had been a much smaller neighboring city that ceased operations. I can't think of any example of a smaller city taking over any area once held by a much larger city. I can't think of any large city in Georgia that let any property within their corporate limits go for that matter.
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Old 06-19-2012, 10:19 AM
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Plus what is the incentive for Buckhead to be part of the Brookhaven sys? To pay more tax with a worse school district? How logical.

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If Brookhaven becomes a city, I wonder what would happen if they started annexing parts of Buckhead. Is that even legal?
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Old 06-19-2012, 10:40 AM
 
Location: ๏̯͡๏﴿ Gwinnett-That's a Civil Matter-County
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Having gone through this before, my advice to those living in the effected areas is this,
if you're wealthy and want the extra, possibly improved (possibly not) services more exclusive address don't mind paying more for it, then incorporation may be for you.

If you're a middle class or lower income person and are having enough trouble keeping up with the rising costs of everything else, and don't have any major complaints about the services provided by the county, then incorporation is only going to make it harder to get by. Then again there is a chance that the new city will become sought after and therefore easier to sell your home and for a higher price than it would otherwise be in an unincorporated area. Of course that would also mean you'd be priced out of buying into the same area again.

Also keep in mind that independent municipalities can charge additional sales and use taxes. One small city I used to live in decided to charge a ridiculous (I think it was 17% or something like that) tax on mobile phone service.

There's no guarantee that the new city will be run by competent individuals. It could end up being in even worse shape financially and even more corrupt than the county.

That's just my 2 cents.

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I would vote for the annexation. What is the point of being in the county when the south part has a free ride? If the real estate market in the south does not recover in the next few years and the county is run by self-interested or incompetent officers, I can foresee another mileage increase soon.
The new incorporated residents will still be paying more in taxes. And that will only get worse as the new city will assume the burden of more and more services like code enforcement, PD, parks and rec, wastewater and storm drain management and so on.

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