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Old 02-27-2017, 02:03 PM
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Yes, drivers will need to adjust their driving habits when driving in dense, urban areas with 30K+ university and 100K's jobs. It's not the same as driving on suburban divided roads with 45 mph SL.
You are a true shill, Carl.

Safety is everyone's responsibility. It's too bad you so vehemently refuse to accept any of it.
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Old 02-27-2017, 02:07 PM
 
Location: Kirkwood
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You are a true shill, Carl.

Safety is everyone's responsibility. It's too bad you so vehemently refuse to accept any of it.
Absolutely opposite. When walking downtown I obey the pedestrian signals.
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Old 02-27-2017, 02:28 PM
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Absolutely opposite. When walking downtown I obey the pedestrian signals.
But you've yet to advocate for anything other than driver safety.

As someone who commutes on foot frequently, walks in urban areas every day, and cycles somewhat regularly, it's obvious to me that safety precautions should be mandatory regardless of your chosen mode of transportation, and the onus should not fall on any single mode of transportation.
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Old 02-27-2017, 02:37 PM
 
Location: Kirkwood
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But you've yet to advocate for anything other than driver safety.

As someone who commutes on foot frequently, walks in urban areas every day, and cycles somewhat regularly, it's obvious to me that safety precautions should be mandatory regardless of your chosen mode of transportation, and the onus should not fall on any single mode of transportation.
Incorrect http://www.city-data.com/forum/47332296-post75.html
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Old 02-27-2017, 03:45 PM
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Unconvincing. I stand by my statement.
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Old 02-27-2017, 05:46 PM
 
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Therefore, before making your turn, you must stop and remain stopped for any pedestrians in the crosswalk of the road onto which you wish to turn until they have cleared the lanes of traffic upon which you are traveling
This seems to be the key passage in the scenario arjay is claiming.

Right, there's no pedestrian in the street or in the crosswalk as I begin my turn. If there were, I obviously wouldn't be turning.

I'm talking about situations where the pedestrian suddenly leaves the sidewalk and walks or runs into the intersection after I've begun turning. If you ask me that is plumb illegal as well as dangerous.
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Old 02-27-2017, 07:29 PM
 
Location: Georgia
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Absolutely opposite. When walking downtown I obey the pedestrian signals.
Depends on the intersection. I've been down there before. Some intersections, it's not too bad; others, it's a steady stream of jaywalkers. GSU students really need a talking-to about pedestrian safety.
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Old 02-27-2017, 07:41 PM
 
Location: Georgia
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Right, there's no pedestrian in the street or in the crosswalk as I begin my turn. If there were, I obviously wouldn't be turning.

I'm talking about situations where the pedestrian suddenly leaves the sidewalk and walks or runs into the intersection after I've begun turning. If you ask me that is plumb illegal as well as dangerous.
Are you talking about where a pedestrian is headed towards a crosswalk? If so, you have to assume the worst, and that is that they would cross your path. If so, you have to stop and wait.
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Old 02-27-2017, 08:28 PM
 
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Are you talking about where a pedestrian is headed towards a crosswalk? If so, you have to assume the worst, and that is that they would cross your path. If so, you have to stop and wait.
Nah, if I see somebody jogging down the sidewalk with their headphones in I assume there's a good chance they are oblivious to the world (including vehicular traffic). One would hope they'd stop before darting in front of a moving car but they may not.
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Old 02-28-2017, 07:13 AM
 
Location: Duluth, GA
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Are you talking about where a pedestrian is headed towards a crosswalk? If so, you have to assume the worst, and that is that they would cross your path. If so, you have to stop and wait.
We're getting highly situational here, and are probably talking about vastly different scenarios by now. Honestly, I can't think of too many intersections in the core-downtown/GSU area where there isn't a traffic signal or a stop sign. OTOH, a Buick is not what comes to mind when I think of a "highly maneuverable" car.

At the end of the day, it is incumbent on both driver and pedestrian to take responsibility for their own safety.
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