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Old 07-10-2012, 08:25 AM
 
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Perhaps i was unclear: My central thesis with school/ITP is that it is extremely unlikely to fine both a good house price AND good schools. My post was simply to state that the only good schools in APS (the ones listed) also ironically tend to be zoned to areas with extremely expensive real estate. Hence, the best option for some who wish to stay ITP, is the intradistrict lottery.
My mistake. Apologies, I misinterpreted your post. We are in agreement.

The request is a fantasy, but it's not unique to this board. I've spent some time reading the NYC board and the NOVA board as I was assessing job opportunities there, and you get the same dream-world questions. "I want a quaint Craftsman home, renovated with character, in a neighborhood that's undiscovered, with great schools, and my budget is $250K." Good luck with that -- Kansas City might be a better fit.
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Old 07-10-2012, 08:26 AM
 
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You have 29 post to my 600+.
Answer my question, if you are capable. What effect does 5.2M population versus 5.9M population have on the debate at hand?
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Old 07-10-2012, 08:30 AM
 
Location: Grant Park, Atlanta
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Good schools are the #1 driving factor in real estate prices in intown neighborhoods. .
Absolutely! My husband and I just sat down and did the math: real estate/good school, private school or moving OTP. So I empathize with the OP!

Finding a good school/decent real estate is not for the faint at heart...
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Old 07-10-2012, 08:33 AM
 
Location: Grant Park, Atlanta
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My mistake. Apologies, I misinterpreted your post. We are in agreement.

The request is a fantasy, but it's not unique to this board. I've spent some time reading the NYC board and the NOVA board as I was assessing job opportunities there, and you get the same dream-world questions. "I want a quaint Craftsman home, renovated with character, in a neighborhood that's undiscovered, with great schools, and my budget is $250K." Good luck with that -- Kansas City might be a better fit.


Ironically, I have lived in NoVA and my husband is from NYC--one will come out of their pocket to live in the city. Hence, people definitely have to adjust their expectations.

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Old 07-10-2012, 09:13 AM
 
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Answer my question, if you are capable. What effect does 5.2M population versus 5.9M population have on the debate at hand?
If you can't understand how the difference of 700,000 people would affect housing then there is nothing I can do. Think hard about those numbers.
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Old 07-10-2012, 09:59 AM
 
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Early on in this thread someone gave the OP a long list of schools to check out, some in areas that may work for the OP.

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Is anyone paying attention to the OP?

This person is looking for an in-town "hidden gem" neighborhood with good schools and a budget of $170K. You just recommended SPark, Lin, Morningside, and Fernbank Elementary districts. Really?

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Old 07-11-2012, 02:01 PM
 
Location: Mableton, GA USA (NW Atlanta suburb, 4 miles OTP)
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If you can't understand how the difference of 700,000 people would affect housing then there is nothing I can do. Think hard about those numbers.
Since those 700,000 people would likely be residing outside of the city itself (in the Atlanta metro's case), I'm not sure the impact of those people on the City of Atlanta would be noticeable at all.
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Old 07-13-2012, 01:07 PM
 
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Here's a good perspective from a realtor pointing out the importance of looking beyond test scores:

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I’m a Realtor. I know very little about classroom instruction or educational policy. I do, however, spend a substantial amount of time with home buyers, many of whom want to know about schools. Here’s what I tell them: Do Not Rely On Test Scores. Doing so is lazy, over-simplistic and misleading. Considering the recent Atlanta Public School cheating scandal, this should be fairly obvious. But it’s not. Especially when the city’s leading newspaper’s “Home Finder” has an education section that showcases school test scores from 2008, and statistics from the Georgia Department of Education from 2006.

Buying a home is a big deal. Don’t rely solely on test scores. If your child might one day go to school in a particular district, you need to look beyond what a state-wide exam tells you. Visit the school, talk to parents who send their children there, talk to teachers, get to know more about the PTA. Learn how the school relates to other schools that are located within close proximity with homes in a comparable price point. Bottom line, do whatever you need to understand the full picture.

Learn More About The School, Not The Test Scores | A is for Atlanta
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Old 07-13-2012, 01:09 PM
 
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Here's a good perspective from a realtor pointing out the importance of looking beyond test scores:
Great post!
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Old 07-13-2012, 01:15 PM
 
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Here's a good perspective from a realtor pointing out the importance of looking beyond test scores:
I agree that test scores aren't the be-all, end-all for evaluating schools, but low scores are a good barometer to tell you that you're likely looking at a poor-performing school overall. Especially in light of the APS scandal, it's become obvious that high scores don't necessarily mean the school is performing well overall, but if you've got consistently low scores across all grades/subjects, that indicates a problem.

It could be the student population, bad teachers, lack of parental involvement, or a host of other issues, but whatever it is, it should be a cause for concern.
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