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Old 06-24-2012, 08:46 AM
 
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Your post makes too much sense. Shhhhhh! That's the sound of Atlanta's collective brain exploding from too much peach kool-aid.

Atlanta has always been about hype not substance. It epitomizes the post-WW2 suburban American dream transplanted to the Deep South and grown completely out of control. For too long the dream seemed real. Atlanta's motto has been cheap land and low taxes, and they will come.

That was great in the 70s and 80s when the American economy produced tangible goods. When our federal tax rates were higher. When the chasm between the rich and the poor wasn't as wide or as deep. When there were more social safety nets on the government side, and corporations offered pensions to dedicated employees. When there was a thriving middle class!

Conservatives like to misquote Margaret Thatcher: "socialism is great until you run out of other people's money". I like to respond that capitalism is great until the money stops flowing. Then what? Then the government must step in and open those greedy hands at the top to let the "trickle down" start again.

But it's not the 70s and 80s anymore. Atlanta is ground zero for the tea party. When you cut off the government's nose to spite its face, who is going to step in to get that money flowing again? Who is going to support public transportation options and smart growth and pollution controls if it isn't profitable? Who is going to control sprawl, set up strict building codes and regulate guns from getting into the hands of criminals when the economic, social and physical safety of the public is at risk.

These are the reasons Atlanta looks less and less attractive to the rest of the country: crime, sprawl, pollution, pathetic transportation infrastructure, cheaply made strip malls and homes, and backwards politics. It is why I moved from there twice now. The only way overhyped leaders are going to wake up from this "peach dream" is when they see rapid population loss out of the state of Georgia.
Worst transportation compared to who? Houston?

 
Old 06-24-2012, 08:50 AM
 
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These are the reasons Atlanta looks less and less attractive to the rest of the country: crime, sprawl, pollution, pathetic transportation infrastructure, cheaply made strip malls and homes, and backwards politics.
That's a bit silly because the places that are growing faster post-recession are still Sunbelt cities with many of the same issues as Atlanta. I'm not saying these aren't challenges to be overcome, but we can't act as though Atlanta is the only one facing them.

The place I really fear for, that I think will eventually see a big downfall, is DC. Federal money can't keep flowing forever to keep that place propped up in light of an inadequately-sized private sector (that's actually self-sufficient and isn't feeding at the government teat) for its size.
 
Old 06-24-2012, 09:39 AM
 
Location: Washington, DC
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That's a bit silly because the places that are growing faster post-recession are still Sunbelt cities with many of the same issues as Atlanta. I'm not saying these aren't challenges to be overcome, but we can't act as though Atlanta is the only one facing them.

The place I really fear for, that I think will eventually see a big downfall, is DC. Federal money can't keep flowing forever to keep that place propped up in light of an inadequately-sized private sector (that's actually self-sufficient and isn't feeding at the government teat) for its size.
Will DC have a slowdown, perhaps, especially if the Republicans get their way.

Is there a diverse private sector economy separate from the Federal Government, much more than there was in the early 90s (the last time DC had a significant real estate slowdown). However, even the Republicans have their pockets lined with $$$ from the military-industrial complex. They love their weapons and they love to war-monger.

Regardless, DC's extensive public transportation, walkable neighborhoods, liberal/libertarian politics and intensive growth in the city limits, have set it up to be more vital than its suburbs. These are the factors young, educated people are looking for, and they won't find it in Atlanta at all.
 
Old 06-24-2012, 09:54 AM
 
Location: Jawjah
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I am in IT and I moved here a couple of months ago with an offer - that said, ever since I moved to Atlanta, I have been getting a lot of calls from local IT recruiters so I guess that means at the very least the IT/Software industry is humming along nicely in Atlanta.
 
Old 06-24-2012, 10:06 AM
 
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Will DC have a slowdown, perhaps, especially if the Republicans get their way.

Is there a diverse private sector economy separate from the Federal Government, much more than there was in the early 90s (the last time DC had a significant real estate slowdown). However, even the Republicans have their pockets lined with $$$ from the military-industrial complex. They love their weapons and they love to war-monger.

Regardless, DC's extensive public transportation, walkable neighborhoods, liberal/libertarian politics and intensive growth in the city limits, have set it up to be more vital than its suburbs. These are the factors young, educated people are looking for, and they won't find it in Atlanta at all.
DC has only become popular among yuppies within the past 10-15 years or so and it's mainly because of increased government spending. Reduce those spending levels or get some decentralization going and, well...

Atlanta is a self-made city--it's actually pretty amazing that it has become what it is given certain factors that have historically worked against such a rise--and will find its way back to prosperity at some point, hopefully sooner rather than later. However, this current slowdown has actually been necessary for a few different reasons and it's good to see this break being taken advantage of in a few different ways. The biggest hindrance from Atlanta realizing its full potential is state government. All I can do is cross my fingers as far as that goes.
 
Old 06-24-2012, 10:07 AM
 
Location: Sweet Home...CHICAGO
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Gonna need some sources before anyone even begins to address this. Most expensive cities?
Source please. What is field and salary and maybe we can tell you why you aren't doing well, otherwise just leave.
Why do people in the Atlanta forums take such an unfavorable dispositions toward those who don't always agree about this city?

When I ask people what are the best industries here who are doing all this hiring or when people say they have no problem finding jobs in their field, when asked what they field is, they haven't answered.
If it wasn't for the fact that I have a child in school and I'm trying to keep things stable as possible for her until she finishes high school, I would have left a long time ago.

I have asked what is here that I'm not seeing with sincere intention so I can at least make the best of this place until she finishes school, but I keep getting if I don't like it, I need to just leave. No one is giving me any productive answers and I am more than willing to make a career change.

I am currently working in the fund development department of an international non-profit as an assistant to the database manager, helping her and the rest of the FD staff get the databases cleaned up and more accurate, but it's only part-time. I previously worked in planning and development but quite naturally was laid off when the economy tanked. Things haven't improved much yet I hear this is still the best place to be compared to other places, yet other places economies are doing much better than here. I feel that people are being encouraged to move here but people aren't being honest about how bleak the economic situation still is.
 
Old 06-24-2012, 10:12 AM
 
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When I ask people what are the best industries here who are doing all this hiring or when people say they have no problem finding jobs in their field, when asked what they field is, they haven't answered.
Well I can't say what the BEST fields are here, but I currently work for a federal public health regulatory agency. One of my friends who's looking to move here from the DMV area is in HR and has gotten a couple of calls from companies in the Atlanta area.
 
Old 06-24-2012, 10:13 AM
 
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Why do people in the Atlanta forums take such an unfavorable dispositions toward those who don't always agree about this city?

When I ask people what are the best industries here who are doing all this hiring or when people say they have no problem finding jobs in their field, when asked what they field is, they haven't answered.
If it wasn't for the fact that I have a child in school and I'm trying to keep things stable as possible for her until she finishes high school, I would have left a long time ago.

I have asked what is here that I'm not seeing with sincere intention so I can at least make the best of this place until she finishes school, but I keep getting if I don't like it, I need to just leave. No one is giving me any productive answers and I am more than willing to make a career change.

I am currently working in the fund development department of an international non-profit as an assistant to the database manager, helping her and the rest of the FD staff get the databases cleaned up and more accurate, but it's only part-time. I previously worked in planning and development but quite naturally was laid off when the economy tanked. Things haven't improved much yet I hear this is still the best place to be compared to other places.
1. I asked you to provide sources for your claims. Not excuses about "people taking stuff personal".

2. People have told you IT,Healthcare and Accounting.
 
Old 06-24-2012, 10:14 AM
 
Location: Sweet Home...CHICAGO
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I am in IT and I moved here a couple of months ago with an offer - that said, ever since I moved to Atlanta, I have been getting a lot of calls from local IT recruiters so I guess that means at the very least the IT/Software industry is humming along nicely in Atlanta.

Thank you for this. This is the most productive answer I have read so far.
 
Old 06-24-2012, 10:20 AM
 
Location: Sweet Home...CHICAGO
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1. I asked you to provide sources for your claims. Not excuses about "people taking stuff personal".

2. People have told you IT,Healthcare and Accounting.
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