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Old 09-17-2012, 02:46 PM
 
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Did Marta cut service to buses and trains? I thought it was just buses. I ask that because Marta rail ridership is down even though gas prices are up. Anybody have any idea why rail ridership would be falling more than bus ridership? I can understand bus ridership being down, but why would rail ridership drop?

Q2 2012 Marta Rail = 223,800 daily riders -4.14% YTD
Q2 2012 Marta Bus = 190,300 daily riders -1.29% YTD

http://www.apta.com/resources/statis...rship-APTA.pdf
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Old 09-18-2012, 03:19 PM
 
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Did Marta cut service to buses and trains? I thought it was just buses. I ask that because Marta rail ridership is down even though gas prices are up. Anybody have any idea why rail ridership would be falling more than bus ridership? I can understand bus ridership being down, but why would rail ridership drop?

Q2 2012 Marta Rail = 223,800 daily riders -4.14% YTD
Q2 2012 Marta Bus = 190,300 daily riders -1.29% YTD

http://www.apta.com/resources/statis...rship-APTA.pdf
Maybe because the job market is so weak here?

And there could be a shift to more driving.
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Old 09-18-2012, 05:00 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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Did Marta cut service to buses and trains? I thought it was just buses. I ask that because Marta rail ridership is down even though gas prices are up. Anybody have any idea why rail ridership would be falling more than bus ridership? I can understand bus ridership being down, but why would rail ridership drop?

Q2 2012 Marta Rail = 223,800 daily riders -4.14% YTD
Q2 2012 Marta Bus = 190,300 daily riders -1.29% YTD

http://www.apta.com/resources/statis...rship-APTA.pdf
They reduced the frequency by a good bit making it less convenient and in a few cases more convenient to be on the road for a few extra minutes.

The trains also tend to be more crowded and uncomfortable with the lower frequency.

but the situation is more complicated...

Many of the people who use and rely on MARTA are making a bus to rail connection, so reductions in one service affect the other.

and to make it even more complicated... Rail.. in particular... is greatly affected by the amount of convention traffic, types of conventions, and business travelers we have in a season. Many people forget we are are a huge convention and trade show town and those venues are downtown directly conected to rail and the airport. That alone can cause quarterly fluctuations.

so its kind of tough to tell... but those are the things to look at.
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Old 09-18-2012, 05:25 PM
 
Location: Decatur, GA
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Have they reduced the schedule? I thought the trains always ran on 15 minute headways until after 7:00pm?
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Old 09-18-2012, 05:52 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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Have they reduced the schedule? I thought the trains always ran on 15 minute headways until after 7:00pm?
well I guess the cuts are technically 2 years old now, but I think they were previously 10/15 head ways instead of 15/20

with the intown portion of the North-south line was 5 minutes vs 7-8 minutes
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Old 09-18-2012, 08:46 PM
 
Location: Decatur, GA
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That's true, up until May '11, I used to call MARTA the "world's worst transit system" then I put my money where my mouth was and actually rode it. So I wasn't really paying attention to schedules or headways or anything like that before then.
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Old 09-19-2012, 08:10 AM
 
Location: Atlanta, Ga
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That's true, up until May '11, I used to call MARTA the "world's worst transit system" then I put my money where my mouth was and actually rode it. So I wasn't really paying attention to schedules or headways or anything like that before then.
I call the personal vehicle the world's worst transportation system because I've had years of experience driving, and after using MARTA, LYNX, CATS, and WMATA, I realized how much easier, cheaper, and over all more convienant it was.
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Old 09-19-2012, 08:14 AM
 
Location: ATL
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That's true, up until May '11, I used to call MARTA the "world's worst transit system" then I put my money where my mouth was and actually rode it. So I wasn't really paying attention to schedules or headways or anything like that before then.
Atlanta (marta)>>>>>>rail systems in LA, San Diego, Houston,Dallas, everywhere in the south except for Dc and everywhere in the west coast except for San Fran. We are only one of the few cities that have heavy rail connections to our airport. Anybody who say otherwise is either just hating or they never traveled anywhere.
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Old 09-19-2012, 08:20 AM
 
Location: ATL
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Did Marta cut service to buses and trains? I thought it was just buses. I ask that because Marta rail ridership is down even though gas prices are up. Anybody have any idea why rail ridership would be falling more than bus ridership? I can understand bus ridership being down, but why would rail ridership drop?

Q2 2012 Marta Rail = 223,800 daily riders -4.14% YTD
Q2 2012 Marta Bus = 190,300 daily riders -1.29% YTD

http://www.apta.com/resources/statis...rship-APTA.pdf
It's not fair to only post the Q2 stats. That's like only posting the murder rate in Chicago during the winter
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Old 09-19-2012, 08:59 AM
 
Location: Kirkwood
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Atlanta (marta)>>>>>>rail systems in LA, San Diego, Houston,Dallas, everywhere in the south except for Dc and everywhere in the west coast except for San Fran. We are only one of the few cities that have heavy rail connections to our airport. Anybody who say otherwise is either just hating or they never traveled anywhere.
DC only to Reagan. It was such a pain getting from LaGuardia to the NYC subway.
The only transit systems with direct rail connection to their Int'l Airport is Atlanta, Chicago, Minneapolis, Cleveland, St. Louis, Seattle, & San Francisco. Miami is like NYC, with a People mover from HRT stations to the terminal. MARTA building a station inside the terminal was forward thinking and helped Atlanta be a primer convention city. Tourist enjoy being able to get off a plane and board a subway to their hotel.
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