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Old 07-06-2012, 11:23 PM
 
Location: Jawjah
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I would love if if MARTA was extended all the way to Duluth and Norcross but I guess thats wishful thinking. I am yet to ride MARTA though..
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Old 07-06-2012, 11:36 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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To be honest, I don't think MARTA needs to extend much farther out than it already does. Atlanta is spread out. The cost for Heavy Rail is high and the frequency is not necessary for many of these suburban areas. Dead horse, I know, but commuter rail fills the Cobb and Gwinnett voids. MARTA should leave its expansion mostly ITP. Fill the void on the east side of town. Build legit heavy rail on the Clifton Corridor. Past that I don't see any reason to expand the system. A high frequency dedicated ROW is not necessary to serve suburban Atlanta.
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Old 07-07-2012, 08:46 AM
 
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I realize that some people think density is the gold standard, but not everyone agrees. In Atlanta many of the largest companies choose suburban locations. That's where many of the high paying jobs tend to be located as well.
Suburban, but not exurban. The largest job centers are still in reasonably dense areas.
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Old 07-08-2012, 12:46 AM
 
Location: atlanta
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To be honest, I don't think MARTA needs to extend much farther out than it already does. Atlanta is spread out. The cost for Heavy Rail is high and the frequency is not necessary for many of these suburban areas. Dead horse, I know, but commuter rail fills the Cobb and Gwinnett voids. MARTA should leave its expansion mostly ITP. Fill the void on the east side of town. Build legit heavy rail on the Clifton Corridor. Past that I don't see any reason to expand the system. A high frequency dedicated ROW is not necessary to serve suburban Atlanta.
it doesn't go enough places in townó the clifton corridor is now going to be a lame-ass streetcar (they said light rail, but it's going to run in the street about 50% of the way).

here's a list off the top of my head of places marta doesn't serve:

-virginia highland
-west midtown
-buckhead outside of the lenox square area which has two stations
-the entirety of southeast atlanta, including grant park, ormewood park, east atlanta, chosewood park and all the SAND communites
-cascade
-poncey-highland

to say marta does not need to expand, is quite silly. also i believe many of the names of the stations should be changed because they don't properly represent the neighbourhoods they're located inó ie: "garnett". garnett street is about 20 feet long and the only people who know about it are intricately familiar with downtown. the station should be called "south downtown".
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Old 07-08-2012, 02:41 AM
 
Location: Atlanta
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to say marta does not need to expand, is quite silly.
I was referring to extending marta farther outside the perimeter.

I pretty much directly agreed with you in my comments.


Best possible MARTA additon eva : The West Midtown - North Peachtree line. Starting at MultiModal station / 5points. Stops at the Pemberton Place, Georgia Tech, Atlantic Station, Piedmont Hospital, Downtown Buckhead. This would be crazy expensive, completely underground, but one of the most useful additions MARTA could dream of.
Edit: Made an alternate route that better serves West Midtown and has more opportunity for elevated/ground.

https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid...010026,0.01929

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Old 07-08-2012, 04:08 AM
 
Location: atlanta
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I was referring to extending marta farther outside the perimeter.

I pretty much directly agreed with you in my comments.


Best possible MARTA additon eva : The West Midtown - North Peachtree line. Starting at MultiModal station / 5points. Stops at the Pemberton Place, Georgia Tech, Atlantic Station, Piedmont Hospital, Downtown Buckhead. This would be crazy expensive, completely underground, but one of the most useful additions MARTA could dream of.
Edit: Made an alternate route that better serves West Midtown and has more opportunity for elevated/ground.

https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid...010026,0.01929
you just mentioned the clifton corridor so i thought that's all you were advocating.

here's a map i made a while back, i did a similar sort of thing in west midtown, but with one line that runs out to cobb with a west midtown line intersecting it:

Bryant's MARTA ideas - Google Maps

since the brookwood MARTA station is going to be replaced by one either downtown or in atlantic station sometime soon, i think it would be an AWESOME idea to use the existing building as a MARTA station.
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Old 07-08-2012, 10:18 AM
 
Location: Kirkwood
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Originally Posted by tikigod311 View Post
I was referring to extending marta farther outside the perimeter.

I pretty much directly agreed with you in my comments.


Best possible MARTA additon eva : The West Midtown - North Peachtree line. Starting at MultiModal station / 5points. Stops at the Pemberton Place, Georgia Tech, Atlantic Station, Piedmont Hospital, Downtown Buckhead. This would be crazy expensive, completely underground, but one of the most useful additions MARTA could dream of.
Edit: Made an alternate route that better serves West Midtown and has more opportunity for elevated/ground.

https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid...010026,0.01929
That corridor is slated to have Streetcar route connecting to the downtown streetcar loop and a midotwn connection to the BeltLine. If the TIA passes that are will see transit service in 10 years. The midtown connection should be routed to 10th st since it sees more traffic, piedmont park, and higher concentration of jobs. HRT should be extended to Cumberland to up 400, since there is no existing railroad to run commuter rail. The clifton corridor can stay LRT since LRT will allow extension to Avondale, while HRT would have to stop. Also, extend the green line to Tucker, thru Lake Claire, North Decatur(connection with clifton corridor), and Druid Hills.
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Old 07-08-2012, 10:19 AM
 
Location: Kirkwood
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i think it would be an AWESOME idea to use the existing building as a MARTA station.
Can't there is no rail line running adjacent to it and the ROW is very congested with freight rail.
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Old 07-08-2012, 11:37 AM
 
Location: atlanta
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Can't there is no rail line running adjacent to it and the ROW is very congested with freight rail.
of course it would involve building a new line (check out the map i posted)
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Old 07-08-2012, 01:10 PM
 
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I just looked at the train map. It looks like there is a whole line missing that should go northwest out to East Cobb. A train line that runs northwest and goes to Marietta would be great. I'm sure I'm beating a dead horse, but what is the deal with public transportation? Atlanta is a large metropolitan city. I am possibly moving here from DC. While our metro system is expensive, it runs pretty well to the different suburbs. I am trying to find a good subdivision near Atlanta and my husband would be working downtown. I heard that Marietta schools are really good if you are going to public school. Yet, there is no MARTA out that way.
Yes you are beating a dead horse. A northwest line is clearly needed but it's in a different county so politics set in. The same is true with Gwinnett. The northeast line should extend there too. Luckily, if Milton County ever is formed, a train line already goes up there, but it should go further up to Alpharetta.
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