New Census data on Fayette County may shock you ... (Atlanta: how much, houses)
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Uh, did you read the article? It would appear that the citizens of Fayette county like things just the way they are. They planned it that way! They want old rich people, not young couples just starting out. Somehow I don't think commuter rail is part of their plan.
Uh, YES. But it seems that since they spent all that tax money on building nice, new schools they would want to keep them full. Here's the thing, old-rich people die and have a lot of health issues. What happens when those old people can't drive themselves to the doctor or hospital?
Uh, YES. But it seems that since they spent all that tax money on building nice, new schools they would want to keep them full. Here's the thing, old-rich people die and have a lot of health issues. What happens when those old people can't drive themselves to the doctor or hospital?
Apparentl not since they're closing them. As for driving themselves to the doctor they do what rich people do everywhere, they hire someone to do that. They certainly won't be riding a train! You don't design a county code or nothing but estate sized homes to attract young people with kids. Personally I don't see a problem. They got exactly what they designed their county to be. What's the problem?
Uh, YES. But it seems that since they spent all that tax money on building nice, new schools they would want to keep them full. Here's the thing, old-rich people die and have a lot of health issues. What happens when those old people can't drive themselves to the doctor or hospital?
They drive golf carts. That's one of the big attracts to seniors for sure! Sometime this year, the multi-use path system that already connects Fayetteville to PTC will be extended to the medical district / hospital zone. And speaking of seniors, here is a photo of the "world famous" student parking lot at McIntosh High School in Peachtree City:
Apparentl not since they're closing them. As for driving themselves to the doctor they do what rich people do everywhere, they hire someone to do that. They certainly won't be riding a train! You don't design a county code or nothing but estate sized homes to attract young people with kids. Personally I don't see a problem. They got exactly what they designed their county to be. What's the problem?
Fayette county is more than just rich old people. Infact the only place in Fayette county that would get commuter rail is Tyrone and PTC, which have alot of commuters living in them. And I don't see why an older person woudn't take a train if they needed to go to the Airport or Downtown.
One reason why I created this thread was because of the disconnect a lot of people seem to have about why a place like Fayette County would WANT to be like it is. I've read it countless times on the forums before: "Why doesn't Fayette want MARTA?" "Why does Fayette hate Atlanta?" Unless you are from there (or someplace like it), it is hard to imagine anywhere that values QUALITY over QUANTITY, low density to high, slow CONTROLLED growth to runaway development. For better or worse, people choose to live there and make long commmute. They'd rather drive 10 minutes for a gallon of milk than have mini mart on every corner. They don't mind paying top dollar mortgages and taxes for their homes, because what they get in return is worth it! The pride and joy of the community is the public school system.
And lest anybody missed the point, this desire to live in a nicer place than where you came from -- and one that promises to REMAIN nice for years to come -- appeals to people of all racial demos. Black families move to Fayette County for the same reason whites do: better schools, lower crime, wider spaces. TO GET OUT OF CLAYTON! If you can afford your house and keep the grass cut, skin color doesn't matter.
And that's the other thing: People who make statements that "Fayette County will one day be just like Clayton" have no idea what they are talking about. With few exceptions, there are NO APARTMENTS in Fayette; no SECTION 8 in Fayette; no ENTRY-LEVEL STARTER HOMES to be bought in Fayette (all the things that doomed Clayton) Where are all those single mom households on welfare gonna live in Fayette County? Nowhere! Ain't gonna happen EVER -- unless the zoning laws are changed (which also occurred in Clayton). And that will be when hell freezes over.
Fayette county is more than just rich old people. Infact the only place in Fayette county that would get commuter rail is Tyrone and PTC, which have alot of commuters living in them. And I don't see why an older person woudn't take a train if they needed to go to the Airport or Downtown.
Not only would a commuter rail line to PTC make sense, there's not a lot of opposition to it! I think because the majority of PTC residents are transplants from other places where commuter rail is valued and appreciated, it would be very successful there. Plus, the CSX line that runs right through the heart of Tyrone and PTC is seldom used for freight. There are several ideal locations for loading platforms. It's a no brainer.
One reason why I created this thread was because of the disconnect a lot of people seem to have about why a place like Fayette County would WANT to be like it is. I've read it countless times on the forums before: "Why doesn't Fayette want MARTA?" "Why does Fayette hate Atlanta?" Unless you are from there (or someplace like it), it is hard to imagine anywhere that values QUALITY over QUANTITY, low density to high, slow CONTROLLED growth to runaway development. For better or worse, people choose to live there and make long commmute. They'd rather drive 10 minutes for a gallon of milk than have mini mart on every corner. They don't mind paying top dollar mortgages and taxes for their homes, because what they get in return is worth it! The pride and joy of the community is the public school system.
And lest anybody missed the point, this desire to live in a nicer place than where you came from -- and one that promises to REMAIN nice for years to come -- appeals to people of all racial demos. Black families move to Fayette County for the same reason whites do: better schools, lower crime, wider spaces. TO GET OUT OF CLAYTON! If you can afford your house and keep the grass cut, skin color doesn't matter.
And that's the other thing: People who make statements that "Fayette County will one day be just like Clayton" have no idea what they are talking about. With few exceptions, there are NO APARTMENTS in Fayette; no SECTION 8 in Fayette; no ENTRY-LEVEL STARTER HOMES to be bought in Fayette (all the things that doomed Clayton) Where are all those single mom households on welfare gonna live in Fayette County? Nowhere! Ain't gonna happen EVER -- unless the zoning laws are changed (which also occurred in Clayton). And that will be when hell freezes over.
Fantastic post Newsboy! This is so right on so many levels.
Fayette County is and will always be home to me. I feel so fortunate to live in a place like this. Rural and beautiful with the conveniences of a large metro. That should never change and I am very thankful for the land use plan and the vision Fayette's planners had. If not for these zoning restrictions, Fayette would look just like Clayton and Henry.
It is so short sighted when folks give Fayette grief when they don't want transit and high density development. Those concepts work fine in many places around Atlanta and I support the ideas. But let Fayette and other counties like it be what they want to be. If Atlanta is to be as great as it can be, appreciate and embrace the diversity of communities around it. Having a collection of lifestyles available to choose from will make Atlanta an attractive place for generations to come.
I'm not from Fayette county, but if I had the money it sounds like the kind of place I'd like to live in. I don't know why so many people think high density people stacked up like cord wood communities is the way everybody wants to live. Some people like that, and I'm happy for them. Others like large lots and low density. More power to thm as well.
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Originally Posted by Newsboy
One reason why I created this thread was because of the disconnect a lot of people seem to have about why a place like Fayette County would WANT to be like it is. I've read it countless times on the forums before: "Why doesn't Fayette want MARTA?" "Why does Fayette hate Atlanta?" Unless you are from there (or someplace like it), it is hard to imagine anywhere that values QUALITY over QUANTITY, low density to high, slow CONTROLLED growth to runaway development. For better or worse, people choose to live there and make long commmute. They'd rather drive 10 minutes for a gallon of milk than have mini mart on every corner. They don't mind paying top dollar mortgages and taxes for their homes, because what they get in return is worth it! The pride and joy of the community is the public school system.
And lest anybody missed the point, this desire to live in a nicer place than where you came from -- and one that promises to REMAIN nice for years to come -- appeals to people of all racial demos. Black families move to Fayette County for the same reason whites do: better schools, lower crime, wider spaces. TO GET OUT OF CLAYTON! If you can afford your house and keep the grass cut, skin color doesn't matter.
And that's the other thing: People who make statements that "Fayette County will one day be just like Clayton" have no idea what they are talking about. With few exceptions, there are NO APARTMENTS in Fayette; no SECTION 8 in Fayette; no ENTRY-LEVEL STARTER HOMES to be bought in Fayette (all the things that doomed Clayton) Where are all those single mom households on welfare gonna live in Fayette County? Nowhere! Ain't gonna happen EVER -- unless the zoning laws are changed (which also occurred in Clayton). And that will be when hell freezes over.
I've never understood the C-D obsession with density / hatred for low density (bad word: sprawl!) period.
To some people, Fayette County will ALWAYS be an evil place because folks there prefer acreage and are willing to do whatever it takes to keep it that way. It's utterly ridiculous!
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