For those waiting for another transportaion referendum... (Atlanta, Columbus: sales, house)

[mattee01]

Good luck, your governor has already said they won't consider it since this one didn't pass. And for those who think it still could come up in two years...once again good luck, I've been waiting 5-6+ years for them to do another here.

[tikigod311]

We shouldn't want another 10 county region TSPLOST. That why this failed in the first place.

Start it over and let the counties vote on membership in Regional Infrastructure Investment Partnership. We can call it RIiP. Oh wait...

[AcidSnake]

Regardless of what the naysayers may think and say, I really do believe that Governor Deal does have a plan B.

More than likely the next Transportation plan will be downsized, and hopefully he will act a bit more sensibly than his predecessor and pair up like-minded counties and have them create their own transportation plans(which should have been done in the first place).

I also think that Deal will be interested in displaying a more sensible Grandfatherly role in manning the helm of Georgia. And given how House Speaker Ralston had at least enough common sense to invite Mayor Reed into the process last time, I would hope that the next time around more of the inner metro Atlanta city leaders will brought in to the table.

Finally this "poison pill" bullcrap that the State legislature is known for throwing into darn near every Atlanta-related legislation needs to stop.

It's ignorant, childish, and does nothing to advance Atlanta's and even moreso Georgia's future.

[south-to-west]

Originally Posted by AcidSnake

Regardless of what the naysayers may think and say, I really do believe that Governor Deal does have a plan B.

More than likely the next Transportation plan will be downsized, and hopefully he will act a bit more sensibly than his predecessor and pair up like-minded counties and have them create their own transportation plans(which should have been done in the first place).

I also think that Deal will be interested in displaying a more sensible Grandfatherly role in manning the helm of Georgia. And given how House Speaker Ralston had at least enough common sense to invite Mayor Reed into the process last time, I would hope that the next time around more of the inner metro Atlanta city leaders will brought in to the table.

Finally this "poison pill" bullcrap that the State legislature is known for throwing into darn near every Atlanta-related legislation needs to stop.

It's ignorant, childish, and does nothing to advance Atlanta's and even moreso Georgia's future.

The governor said that he wouldn't revisit the roundtable process because "the people have spoken" and I can hardly blame his position given the drubbing that the TSPLOST took at the polls. As many of us have claimed all along, there is no Plan B - or at least nothing that will resemble the roundtable. Hell, he even went as far to say that there will be no expansion of Atlanta's rail network in the forseeable future.

Also there will be no political will to introduce legislation that would let counties form their own region. Just about every elected official outside of the Augusta, Columbus and Vidalia will be too scared to touch the issue of transportation funding with a 10-foot pole.

Atlanta had it's chance to modernize and expand it's infrastructure on a massive scale and blew it. Expect to see more delays and more tolls in the forseeable future.

[gapowermike]

Why in the world should we rehash this by shrinking the size of the Metro region? In case you didn't notice it failed in ALL of the Metro counties. Any combination of counties will result in another failure.

Trust is necessary and nonexistent where government is concerned. The government has proven untrustworthy at nearly all levels.

[mattee01]

Indeed...while the list wasn't the best for the tsplot, I would wager any list would have been unappealing to most people given they would want more in their own area or on the transportation they prefer. Also doing a tsplot on a single county basis is similar to one of the many things that's held MARTA back. Now about the best and only things they can do is get rid of that 50/50 for MARTA, bring up the vote in Cobb and possibly Gwinnett for MARTA, and start adding more toll lanes on 85, 285, 75, 20 (out of existing lanes) and maybe turn regular streets into tolls,

[cqholt]

In case you didn't notice it failed in ALL of the Metro counties

It passed 60% in Atlanta.

Now about the best and only things they can do is get rid of that 50/50 for MARTA, bring up the vote in Cobb and possibly Gwinnett for MARTA, and start adding more toll lanes on 85, 285, 75, 20 (out of existing lanes) and maybe turn regular streets into tolls,

Exactly, get the state control out of MARTA. Have Clayton County hold a binding MARTA sales tax referendum, and let Cobb and Gwinnett vote on a non-binding MARTA Sales Tax Referendum. All state money for GRTA be sent to MARTA instead, and have GCT and CCT take over the GRTA express routes in those counties. The old GRTA buses be given or sold at a reduced price to the local transit agencies. GRTA is a waste of state funds.

[tonygeorgia]

Stop posting the same stuff over and over. This should go in the main transportation thread

[JPD]

Originally Posted by AcidSnake

Regardless of what the naysayers may think and say, I really do believe that Governor Deal does have a plan B.

Deal has already said his plan b is business as usual: No money for MARTA, and basic road projects paid for out of the general fund, with cuts elsewhere in order to find the money. Just like what we've always done in this state. That's not really a plan b.

[RandyWatson13]

I have more faith in Deal than Reed. That is saying a lot lol. He's cut taxes and at least canceled the GA 400 Toll.

You know whats funny. All these big businesses want us to pay for roads etc and why don't they just let people work from home a day or two. That would surely help traffic a lot more.

Idiots.