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Old 06-26-2013, 12:57 PM
 
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I liked Roppongi (except for the Yakuza activity) since the area is active all night long. What I really want is for Midtown to feel like Ginza or Shinjuku
Just watched a video of Ginza..it's crazy how much neighborhoods Tokyo has that are just like Times Square....it has to be at least 5-6...Ginza, Ryponggi, Shibuya, Shinjuku, Akihabara, Kabukicho, and probably more than this...

I would kill for Atlanta to have even just one of these....I think that Times Square south project that was proposed to go near the CNN center should move somewhere Midtown.
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Old 06-26-2013, 01:02 PM
 
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I think you are in the wrong city, Ant. Why not just settle in Tokyo or Time Square if that's what you're looking for? Even if Atlanta residents wanted to go in that direction (which they don't), it would still take decades to make that kind of change.

By that time you'll be as old as I am.
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Old 06-26-2013, 01:04 PM
 
Location: Johns Creek area
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Ant - I think you need to relocate to NY or Tokyo, for no other reason than to appreciate Atlanta for what it is. Trust me - spend three months in Tokyo and you'll likely yearn for Atlanta.
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Old 06-26-2013, 01:08 PM
 
Location: Georgia
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Just watched a video of Ginza..it's crazy how much neighborhoods Tokyo has that are just like Times Square....it has to be at least 5-6...Ginza, Ryponggi, Shibuya, Shinjuku, Akihabara, Kabukicho, and probably more than this...

I would kill for Atlanta to have even just one of these....I think that Times Square south project that was proposed to go near the CNN center should move somewhere Midtown.
Well Tokyo IS the largest city on Earth. And much MUCH older than Atlanta.

You have a lot of expectations for Atlanta, but let's be real. It's only been a "major city" for 40ish years, while it's been many times that for Tokyo, NYC, etc...
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Old 06-26-2013, 01:17 PM
 
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Why does everyone think that Atlanta is just this perfect place for everyone? Just because you guys like it doesn't mean that people who move away from it will all of a sudden yearn for it. I truly appreciate large, urban cities with lots of foot traffic and things are close by. I don't enjoy driving and I enjoy taking MARTA or the subway into the city when I want to. I like being able to walk to restaurants from where I live and not having to drive 10-20 minutes to get to where I want to. Not everyone likes sprawled, auto-centric cities that doesn't have much life. You see more cars than people on an average day, especially if you never actually go into the city. Americans are too used to cars and not walking. No wonder we have such a poor life expectancy for developed countries and so many are fat. We never walk like people walk in Europe or Asia where they have built up cities.

If that's the case, I yearn to be back in LA moreso than Atlanta. At least LA is a densely sprawled city with more going on for it. Atlanta is far away from many things, most notably other large cities.

I'm just dreaming of an Atlanta where you actually see a lot of foot traffic and amenities within a very short space. Everyone knows Atlanta didn't plan well. Now it's trying to fix that error by building up it's core. I don't understand why suburbanites who don't live in the immediate core care so much(talking to you arjay). It doesn't affect you directly so what does it matter? Maybe one day when it gets to that point, I will rent/buy an apartment/condo in Midtown.

I just don't understand why people here in Atlanta want the city to stay a suburban-like mess with a dead downtown/midtown area. Why would you want tourists to arrive in a city that's dead? That's full of parking lots and bland development? Is it a coincidence that the most toured cities in the world generally are walkable?
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Old 06-26-2013, 01:26 PM
 
Location: Georgia
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I'm just dreaming of an Atlanta where you actually see a lot of foot traffic and amenities within a very short space. Everyone knows Atlanta didn't plan well. Now it's trying to fix that error by building up it's core. I don't understand why suburbanites who don't live in the immediate core care so much(talking to you arjay). It doesn't affect you directly so what does it matter? Maybe one day when it gets to that point, I will rent/buy an apartment/condo in Midtown.

I just don't understand why people here in Atlanta want the city to stay a suburban-like mess with a dead downtown/midtown area. Why would you want tourists to arrive in a city that's dead? That's full of parking lots and bland development? Is it a coincidence that the most toured cities in the world generally are walkable?
Now this I can agree with ^^^
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Old 06-26-2013, 01:43 PM
 
Location: Johns Creek area
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Nobody wants Atlanta "dead" and it is far from that. That doesn't mean we want it to be NYC either.
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Old 06-26-2013, 02:36 PM
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I just don't understand why people here in Atlanta want the city to stay a suburban-like mess with a dead downtown/midtown area. Why would you want tourists to arrive in a city that's dead? That's full of parking lots and bland development? Is it a coincidence that the most toured cities in the world generally are walkable?
I don't know anyone who wants that.

And doesn't Arjay live in Va-Hi? Hardly the suburbs.
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Old 06-26-2013, 03:21 PM
 
Location: Inman Park
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Atlanta's 'cityness' has grown exponentially since '96. By 2020 there will be so much more density and amenities in the core Beltline area you won't be able to recognize the city.
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Old 06-26-2013, 04:13 PM
 
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We used to live in Virginia-Highland and loved it and still have our little house there. However we moved over to Buckhead a while back. Downtown Tokyo it is not but it's not exactly the boondocks either.

Atlanta is a lovely, livable and dynamic city. It's getting better all the time. While I understand Ant's feelings, we have plenty of excellent entertainment and restaurant districts which are the result of community demand. That's exactly how Manhattan and Singapore and London and Hong Kong became what they are.

When I crave a dose of Paris or NYC, I simply go there. No offense intended, but it doesn't make sense to pound on Atlanta or Atlantans for not "measuring up" to a standard we haven't chosen to adopt.
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