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Old 09-27-2012, 12:02 AM
 
Location: Mableton, GA USA (NW Atlanta suburb, 4 miles OTP)
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wow, what an extremely expensive solution that transit can easily solve.
I wonder how expensive it would really be per passenger when compared to rail-based solutions.
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Old 09-27-2012, 12:39 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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I wonder how expensive it would really be per passenger when compared to rail-based solutions.
Rail base isn't a solution.

A train can't pick me up at my door, take me to the grocery store, then Lowes, then the shoe store......provide me space to stash all the stuff I bought.....and then drop me back home and wait while I unload all my stuff.

A driverless car could.
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Old 09-27-2012, 01:00 AM
 
Location: Decatur, GA
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Rail base isn't a solution.

A train can't pick me up at my door, take me to the grocery store, then Lowes, then the shoe store......provide me space to stash all the stuff I bought.....and then drop me back home and wait while I unload all my stuff.

A driverless car could.
But how much extra infrastructure would driverless cars need to meet the same capacity as rail-based transit? If it's much less, and it costs much less, then yea, go for it. But if a transit line is STILL better than the driverless cars in cost per person per hour, then it should be the transit that gets built. Most of what you're talking about is last-mile type things, which would be handled by your private automobile anyways once you got off the transit, or you just wouldn't use transit to go to those places. Transit isn't a universal solution, but it should be implemented where it makes sense.
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Old 09-27-2012, 02:17 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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But how much extra infrastructure would driverless cars need to meet the same capacity as rail-based transit? If it's much less, and it costs much less, then yea, go for it. But if a transit line is STILL better than the driverless cars in cost per person per hour, then it should be the transit that gets built. Most of what you're talking about is last-mile type things, which would be handled by your private automobile anyways once you got off the transit, or you just wouldn't use transit to go to those places. Transit isn't a universal solution, but it should be implemented where it makes sense.
It doesn't sound to me like these driverless cars will need any extra infrastructure, they would use what is already there, just as regular cars do.

These cars would mean independence for the elderly and handicapped. I think it is a wonderful idea if it can be perfected.
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Old 09-27-2012, 02:37 AM
 
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Of course its in California. They are always way ahead in the future, just like Japan. I wish Georgia could be more advanced, but it is more like Italy, stuck in the 1950's.
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Old 09-27-2012, 12:04 PM
 
Location: Decatur, GA
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It doesn't sound to me like these driverless cars will need any extra infrastructure, they would use what is already there, just as regular cars do.

These cars would mean independence for the elderly and handicapped. I think it is a wonderful idea if it can be perfected.
They'll need just as much infrastructure as vehicles today. Maybe a bit less. But what happens when the vehicles do exceed the capacity of a stretch of highway? Then we'll have to add another highway lane.
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Old 09-27-2012, 12:56 PM
 
Location: Johns Creek area
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Oh my gosh! What will I do when I can no longer complain (bitterly!) about driving my kids' carpool???? WOO HOO!!!
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Old 09-27-2012, 02:06 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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They'll need just as much infrastructure as vehicles today. Maybe a bit less. But what happens when the vehicles do exceed the capacity of a stretch of highway? Then we'll have to add another highway lane.
So you add another lane.

Not everyone lives in high density cities that would justify the cost of mass transit.
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Old 09-27-2012, 03:02 PM
 
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I dont think I can trust a car to drive me...unless its the Knightrider
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Old 09-27-2012, 03:33 PM
 
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I'm out in Palo Alto/Mountain View for work and actually saw several of them cruising around town. One was a Lexus RX Hybrid and another was a Prius. Thought it was a StreetView car at first but the roof mounted rig was spinning super fast. Couldn't tell they were autonomous at all. Did full stops at all the stop signs and didn't mow down any pedestrians so I guess it's working.
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