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Old 10-07-2012, 05:22 PM
 
Location: Mableton, GA USA (NW Atlanta suburb, 4 miles OTP)
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I trust what God's Word says.
Ah, but who's version of God's word ... and which specific translation ... would that be?

I realize you're trolling, and I also realize that science is also "faith-based" to a point because nobody can understand all scientific fields these days so experts are defacto priests of sorts within their areas of specialty, but I have a hard time accepting that there is a single version of God's word when I can find a hundred different interpretations out there. There isn't one word ... there are thousands.

Assuming $DIETY is all powerful and all knowing, why doesn't he simply show himself? Why engage in such childish (and frankly cruel) testing? And why permit different branches of believers in Himself to war with each so cruelly over the centuries?

 
Old 10-07-2012, 05:34 PM
 
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Prayer certainly provides peace of mind, and it's a good way to show support for someone, but whether or not it has more than a psychosomatic effect is not for me to say. There are times when it seems like it might be more, but to say it is would be pure speculation.

Faith can certainly be powerful in human terms, but the results of faith-based actions are usually not measurable or reproducible on demand. Science demands a certain level of predictability and reproducibility in order to accept something as true.

Christianity and science are usually not mutually exclusive, and many of the scientists I know who are Christian (and many of the non-scientist Christians I know)are secure enough in their faith to not question basic scientific tenants because, to them, there is no conflict.
It's all about trusting God. Many people pray but do not have true faith.

I've seen some truly miraculous things happen through God's divine interaction. I wish that everyone were open to God working in their lives.
 
Old 10-07-2012, 05:39 PM
 
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Even if you believe in the power of prayer, that's for you to determine on your own. Or to discuss with your minister.

Not your doctor. Your doctor's one and only job is to try to heal medically.
Where do you think healing comes from? It's all from God. He has dominion over all. People left to their own devices can't do anything without God. He is the Physician.
 
Old 10-07-2012, 05:48 PM
 
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Ah, but who's version of God's word ... and which specific translation ... would that be?
The Holy Bible. It doesn't matter the translation, the meaning is the same.

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I realize you're trolling, and I also realize that science is also "faith-based" to a point because nobody can understand all scientific fields these days so experts are defacto priests of sorts within their areas of specialty, but I have a hard time accepting that there is a single version of God's word when I can find a hundred different interpretations out there. There isn't one word ... there are thousands.
No, I'm not trolling. I'm simply telling you what I believe. Every Bible translation that I've seen has the same meaning, just in a different format.

People do interpret some scriptures differently. Some scripture sometimes appears a bit more vague than most scripture, but, by and large, there's a general meaning behind it.

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Assuming $DIETY is all powerful and all knowing, why doesn't he simply show himself? Why engage in such childish (and frankly cruel) testing? And why permit different branches of believers in Himself to war with each so cruelly over the centuries?
He does show himself and His might works. Just look at this planet, the solar system, the galaxy and the universe. That's God. That's Him showing His Works. I realize that you're looking for a "God speaking to you in an audio voice", but that doesn't mean that He's cruel.

My dad had a "near"-death experience. The afterlife is real. God is real. Trust God with your life.
 
Old 10-07-2012, 05:56 PM
 
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Why waste your time with wordly things like the internet when you have such a strong belief in God? It's an awfully materialistic way to spend your time...how do you think God feels about that? Did he invent it? Isn't it "evil"?
 
Old 10-07-2012, 06:08 PM
 
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Over the years it's been lost throughout the various translations, but most scholars of Christianity know that Jesus was quite fond of saying "thou shalt not prosthelytize on the internet" in many of his sermons.
 
Old 10-07-2012, 06:41 PM
 
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This came up during the TSPLOST debate. The former Cobb Commission chairman said he was concerned that putting in multi-use trails in Cobb County was furthering an international plot undermine our way of life known as Agenda 21.
"Another example: As commission chairman, Byrne was an advocate for constructing four-foot wide sidewalks along county roads for use by pedestrians and joggers.

The county is now constructing an eight-foot wide multi-use trail along Dallas Highway in west Cobb. “That’s Agenda 21,” Byrne said. “Bicycles and pedestrian traffic as an alternative form of transportation to the automobile.”
Now, the problem is being tackled at the state level. Later this week legislators will be attending a 4 hour seminar at the state capitol on how to root out the hidden socialist agenda in nice-sounding terms like "smart growth," "sustainable development", and "Public Private Partnerships," as well as in organizations like the ARC, Tax Allocation Districts and CIDs.



That is beyond retarded.

As for Paul Broun, what does one expect from a nutbag evangelical? Quite happy to throw away all evidence to the contrary and believe in whatever nonsensical interpretations have been derived from the biased interpretation of millenia-old lore handed down by superstitious tribes.
 
Old 10-07-2012, 06:55 PM
 
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Every now and then I'm reminded as to how regressive Georgia is. I'm glad to see many people on here that are realistic and that restores my faith in society.

I think someone previously mentioned this, but you can sit at home and worship your coffee table for all I care but when you stifle the advancement and intellectual curiosity of a society solely based on your views then that makes me angry.
 
Old 10-07-2012, 07:02 PM
 
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That is beyond retarded.
Well, those international conspirators are gonna have to get up pretty early to put one over on the Georgia legislature.

We know all about your "smart growth" and CID's and PPI's and alternative modes of transportation. Ever noticed you didn't hear nearly as much about all until Obama was elected?

 
Old 10-07-2012, 07:17 PM
 
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I'm glad that Representative Broun had the courage to speak the truth.
Anyone who believes as Broun does is an idiot beyond description.
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