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Old 10-16-2012, 10:27 PM
 
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Streetcar inspired move?

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Good get for Atlanta.
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Old 10-16-2012, 11:16 PM
 
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Atlanta has and always has had something going for it that is very lucrative, but not as well known or as 'sexy.'

Atlanta's major advantage has always been geographic positioning. This doesn't go away for the major data backbone of the internet.

Home users won't understand this, since you can move almost anywhere in the country and access anything at home speeds. However, if you're a major company sending and receiving large (huge) amounts of data, you are well aware you are paying for access to the internet backbone lines everyone uses. They are often referred to as longhaul fiber lines.

Now these backbones are all over the place and often bypass our city, however they frequently intersect here as well. The major advantage Atlanta has is we are mid-way between the major Northeastern population centers, midwestern centers, eastern Texas, and South Florida. The old flying adage for our airport... a 2 hour flight to 80% of the US population.

We are ideally positioned for any company that needs large amounts of data access to all population centers in the eastern and central US, however we are not ideally positioned for regional companies that are mainly located in some of these areas and not all. In other words... you can send larger amounts of data to most the US cheaper from here, than other places. Now companies with a national presence, but heavier on the west coasts will probably want to locate in other inland hubs like Chicago or Dallas.

We attract alot of data centers for this very reason. This tends to bring in alot of presence by finance firms, whether headquartered here or not. They need communications access to handle financial transactions. It is also partly why we have companies like Equifax here and many telecommunications companies, like AT&T wireless and Cox Communications.
But that's just talking about networks and a strategic location for data centers. It's irrelevant for attracting highly creative high tech companies. Atlanta would like to get passed having an army of IT grunts and in addition have future molding tech. Google recently downsized its operation in Atlanta by shifting its engineering elsewhere.

Google said to move engineering ops out of Atlanta - Atlanta Business Chronicle

Now for Google, Atlanta is a sales office and a data center. Atlanta doesn't seem to be the high-end high tech center it has been endlessly chasing.
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Old 10-16-2012, 11:49 PM
 
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But that's just talking about networks and a strategic location for data centers. It's irrelevant for attracting highly creative high tech companies. Atlanta would like to get passed having an army of IT grunts and in addition have future molding tech. Google recently downsized its operation in Atlanta by shifting its engineering elsewhere.

Google said to move engineering ops out of Atlanta - Atlanta Business Chronicle

Now for Google, Atlanta is a sales office and a data center. Atlanta doesn't seem to be the high-end high tech center it has been endlessly chasing.
I think the point I'm trying to make is those data centers don't just foster IT grunts... They provide a competitive advantage that various companies locate a presence here, which also includes other elements of their operations.

I use the finance exchange as an example for a reason.
A software engineer creating programming for bank exchange software might not be or sound as exciting an apple developer, but it still requires the same high skilled worker for a lucrative position within our economy. These are also the type of companies/positions that actually heavily use technology and are cutting in edge in many ways, but people don't think of them being high-tech. They think of them being an older traditional industry.
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Old 10-17-2012, 09:44 AM
 
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I think the point I'm trying to make is those data centers don't just foster IT grunts... They provide a competitive advantage that various companies locate a presence here, which also includes other elements of their operations.

I use the finance exchange as an example for a reason.
A software engineer creating programming for bank exchange software might not be or sound as exciting an apple developer, but it still requires the same high skilled worker for a lucrative position within our economy. These are also the type of companies/positions that actually heavily use technology and are cutting in edge in many ways, but people don't think of them being high-tech. They think of them being an older traditional industry.
Unless the company is hosting the software, and bandwidth is of very high importance, it wouldn't have a big advantage by locating on a backbone. Data centers would. A bank might like a backbone location but it is more business than IT driven.

IT is everywhere of course, but I'm talking about companies that are high tech driven. High tech is what they produce, not bank or other such services. A company where most of the staff are IT or some form of technology that are creating rather than support.
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Old 10-17-2012, 11:26 AM
 
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The cities where all the banks operate already have their own tier one naps: NYC, Chicago etc. The network pipes are kind of good enough everywhere now. Data centers on the scale of Google and Apple are now looking for deals on energy, thus move to places like the Dalles in Oregon and Maiden, NC where power is cheap and reliable.
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Old 10-17-2012, 11:42 AM
 
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Unless the company is hosting the software, and bandwidth is of very high importance, it wouldn't have a big advantage by locating on a backbone. Data centers would. A bank might like a backbone location but it is more business than IT driven.

IT is everywhere of course, but I'm talking about companies that are high tech driven. High tech is what they produce, not bank or other such services. A company where most of the staff are IT or some form of technology that are creating rather than support.
Yes, but in the case of finance firms... they -are- actually here as well. We have a heavy presence in Finance and companies like Equifax... not to mention we just got NCR, which doesn't really utilize the data centers directly.... but makes the equipment to the to the companies that do. All of it is high tech, high value, and requires the employee talent, and lucrative. What it isn't is brands end-user consumers are use to or think about as technology, but it is. I don't want to accidently make the mistake of just valuing consumer electronics.
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Old 10-21-2012, 11:16 AM
 
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What about the assemblers. We have a great desire to come back home! Reopen the doraville plant so we can continue creating customer enthusiasm instead of company regret.....
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Old 10-21-2012, 11:24 AM
 
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I wonder how much longer will it take for Atlanta to be recognized as among the leading high tech cities.

America

Atlanta has been bringing in a lot, so what exactly is missing?
We should turn our focus to the UNIVERSITIES for the STATE, not just Atlanta. UGA is a health science powerhouse.
http://news.uga.edu/releases/article...ays-in-athens/

$1.3 billion UGA start-up company graduates but stays in Athens

The vet school, pharmacy school, Franklin College of Arts and Sciences have been pushing to develop their science program since Adams took over.

Tech is Tech. I don't even need to say anything here. Tech brings in so much research dollars every year it's not even funny. Not even UGA can compete with them on that.

Even Georgia State has been making strides to improve the school.

Emory is helpful, but I don't think many students stay in-state after graduation.

The GM boost would be awesome.
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Old 10-21-2012, 11:30 AM
 
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What about the assemblers. We have a great desire to come back home! Reopen the doraville plant so we can continue creating customer enthusiasm instead of company regret.....
I was thinking that GM could use the Doraville site to combine both IT and manufacturing.

Make it a state of the art experimental facility where the newest technologies and assembly approaches are tested out. So much of new innovation comes from the factory floor, so this would be a great opportunity to combine that with the IT "brains."
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Old 10-22-2012, 02:06 AM
 
Location: Atlanta ,GA
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Streetcar inspired move?

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Good get for Atlanta.
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