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Old 10-22-2012, 10:53 AM
 
Location: Atlanta
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Well, ATL does have GA Tech which is one piece of the puzzle.

At this point it's too late to compete with Pac NW or Silicon Valley in making software like Google, Facebook or mobile apps. That ecosystem has been in place for decades, and the network effects are too strong to overcome.

ATL could however leverage GA Tech to produce interesting startups in robotics and other next wave technologies which are a hybrid of hardware and software. Smarter cars, smarter appliances, smarter military devices, home automation, smart buildings, software controlled green building tech, factory automation. Those kind of things are still wide open at the moment, and GA Tech has strong programs in industrial, civil, mechanical and electrical engineering, as well as construction technology.
Georgia has kind of missed the boat when it comes to making Atlanta a factory automation and automotive research center as well. For the past 20 years foreign automakers having been plucking down auto plants in the South like crazy but somehow Georgia missed out on all of this. Now, BMW has a very large advanced operation in South Carolina and there is a big automotive research center at University of South Carolina sponsered by BMW and several of it's automotive suppliers and even competitors. Alabama also has something similar. It would be hard for a center in Atlanta to supplant these when there is much much more automotive manufacturing now going on in Alabama and Carolina than in Georgia. Tennessee also far exceeds Georgia too. Sad thing is Georgia used to lead the South in Auto production until it's plants closed down and it watched other States take all the new comers.
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Old 10-22-2012, 11:13 AM
 
Location: Atlanta
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What Atlanta gets most of the time is basically "IT department jobs" of larger companies. Not that there is anything wrong with it. These jobs can be done anywhere in the world, where there are some IT-capable bodies. This requires people who can write "application code".

However, today technology is trying to change the world. Apparently, people who are trying to change the world are flocking to Silicon Valley and San Francisco, and I suppose some of the cities in the link provided by Mathman. These kinds of jobs requires people who can write "system code", and I think also a lot of creativity and confidence.
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Atlanta lacks a CREATIVE class of IT to make it a Silicon Valley.

That's different from regular code monkeys or system/network dudes.


Anyone can write code and from anywhere.

Atlanta doesn't have the creative tech start ups and corps that innovate and create/engineer software to change the way we live.
Here's one major difference between Atlanta and Silicon Valley, Boston's research highway and North Carolina's Research Triangle.


Research Schools

Atlanta: Georgia Tech Endowment $1.626 Billion

Silicon Valley: Stanford/ Berkley Endowments $17 billion/ $3.08 billion

Research Triangle: Duke/ NC State/ Chapel Hill Endowments $5.7 billion/$ .6 billion/$2.22 Bill

Boston: MIT/ Harvard Endowments $10.3 billion/ $32 billion


Much of this money is money funded by local corporations for the development of research used by those companies. Is it any wonder these other cities are more prolific producers of scientific breakthroughs and draw more research nerds and technology start ups?

On the other hand Denver/ Boulder and Phoenix are hot tech cities even though their schools have smaller endowments than Ga Tech. Atlanta should be able to compete with the likes of the Tech Center in Denver.
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Old 10-22-2012, 11:28 AM
 
Location: Kirkwood
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Here's one major difference between Atlanta and Silicon Valley, Boston's research highway and North Carolina's Research Triangle.


Research Schools

Atlanta: Georgia Tech Endowment $1.626 Billion

Silicon Valley: Stanford/ Berkley Endowments $17 billion/ $3.08 billion

Research Triangle: Duke/ NC State/ Chapel Hill Endowments $5.7 billion/$ .6 billion/$2.22 Bill

Boston: MIT/ Harvard Endowments $10.3 billion/ $32 billion


Much of this money is money funded by local corporations for the development of research used by those companies. Is it any wonder these other cities are more prolific producers of scientific breakthroughs and draw more research nerds and technology start ups?

On the other hand Denver/ Boulder and Phoenix are hot tech cities even though their schools have smaller endowments than Ga Tech. Atlanta should be able to compete with the likes of the Tech Center in Denver.
Georgia is a more religious and moral conservative state than those posted. We just got Sunday sales! That could be a reason why, not saying it is the #1 reason, but maybe it plays a part.
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Old 10-22-2012, 11:29 AM
 
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Research Schools

Atlanta: Georgia Tech Endowment $1.626 Billion
Why doesn't Emory count? They pulled in half a billion in research grants last year and have an endowment of $5.4 billion.

UGA isn't exactly chopped liver either.
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Old 10-22-2012, 11:31 AM
 
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You should include Emory's $5+ billion endowment if you're making this comparison, and probably UGA's $600 million as well. Atlanta doesn't have any mega-endowments like Harvard or Stanford, but we hold our own with RDU.
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Old 10-22-2012, 11:33 AM
 
Location: Kirkwood
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You should include Emory's $5+ billion endowment if you're making this comparison, and probably UGA's $600 million as well. Atlanta doesn't have any mega-endowments like Harvard or Stanford, but we hold our own with RDU.
Include the AUC schools as well.
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Old 10-22-2012, 11:40 AM
 
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For the past 20 years foreign automakers having been plucking down auto plants in the South like crazy but somehow Georgia missed out on all of this.
Well, we did get Kia. You could probably also make the argument that Georgia gets major benefits from plants that are at or near the state line, such as Volkswagen in Chattanooga.
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Old 10-22-2012, 12:03 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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You should include Emory's $5+ billion endowment if you're making this comparison, and probably UGA's $600 million as well. Atlanta doesn't have any mega-endowments like Harvard or Stanford, but we hold our own with RDU.
Your right. I should have included Emory and maybe even UGA. Still a mix match. AUC does much smaller amount of research.
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Old 10-22-2012, 12:14 PM
 
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Georgia has kind of missed the boat when it comes to making Atlanta a factory automation and automotive research center as well. For the past 20 years foreign automakers having been plucking down auto plants in the South like crazy but somehow Georgia missed out on all of this. Now, BMW has a very large advanced operation in South Carolina and there is a big automotive research center at University of South Carolina sponsered by BMW and several of it's automotive suppliers and even competitors. Alabama also has something similar. It would be hard for a center in Atlanta to supplant these when there is much much more automotive manufacturing now going on in Alabama and Carolina than in Georgia. Tennessee also far exceeds Georgia too. Sad thing is Georgia used to lead the South in Auto production until it's plants closed down and it watched other States take all the new comers.
That's interesting info. I knew BMW had an advanced tech research office in Palo Alto but was unaware of what they were doing in South Carolina.
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Old 10-22-2012, 12:17 PM
 
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Why doesn't Emory count? They pulled in half a billion in research grants last year and have an endowment of $5.4 billion.

UGA isn't exactly chopped liver either.
Emory isn't an engineering school, though.
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