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Old 10-17-2012, 10:57 AM
 
Location: Kirkwood
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Incorporate Tucker and let them annex Northlake area. Incorporate North Decatur. Let Stone Mtn, Pine Lake, and Clarkston annex land east of I-285. Incorporate Panthersville, Scottdale, and Redan. Let Lithonia annex Stonecrest area. Let Atlanta annex Emory, Briarcliff, Toco Hills, and North Druid Hills.
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Old 10-17-2012, 11:10 AM
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Incorporate Tucker and let them annex Northlake area. Incorporate North Decatur. Let Stone Mtn, Pine Lake, and Clarkston annex land east of I-285. Incorporate Panthersville, Scottdale, and Redan. Let Lithonia annex Stonecrest area. Let Atlanta annex Emory, Briarcliff, Toco Hills, and North Druid Hills.
A City of Tucker will never be able to exist without the Northlake business district. It's been studied, and that is the conclusion. Google "Tucker incorporation" if you want to read the study.

If Tucker wants to become a city, they should probaly go ahead and do it before the Northlake residential areas and Oak Grove/Sagamore/Toco Hill team up and try to form a city and take the Northlake businesses into their borders.
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Old 10-17-2012, 01:25 PM
 
Location: Savannah GA
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That would be a funny problem for Fayette and Henry.
You guys want this part of the county? Eh... no, you take it. No no no no, you take it. NOOOO, YOU TAKE IT. No way bud, its all yours!

Ok, fine. Lets flip and see who gets it...



To be fair, if you are referring to the panhandle area only, there would be takers.
But what would you do about the schools? You think Fayette or Henry is gonna take on THAT mess? Never in a million billion trillion years ...
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Old 10-17-2012, 01:32 PM
 
Location: Savannah GA
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Jefferson County AL (Birmingham) has more than 50 incorporated cities and towns and 12 school districts. Is this really the direction Fulton and Dekalb want to go?

We don't need MORE cities in Metro ATL ... We need BIGGER and BETTER cities!
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Old 10-17-2012, 01:41 PM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA (Dunwoody)
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Jefferson County AL (Birmingham) has more than 50 incorporated cities and towns and 12 school districts. Is this really the direction Fulton and Dekalb want to go?

We don't need MORE cities in Metro ATL ... We need BIGGER and BETTER cities!
Yeah, but Jefferson County is five times larger than DeKalb county. It's larger than five Georgia counties combined. Alabama has huge counties, never in a million years could most counties there provide services over so vast an area. I worked social services there and routinely drove several hundred miles a day just sering my clients.

Dekalb is tiny by comparison, but much more dense. Presumably we can afford a few more cities. Though obviously a Dekalb city is ridiculous. Most important is when will these cities start advocating for their own school systems? This whole chartervschool boondoggle is a distraction from what really should be happening.
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Old 10-17-2012, 01:43 PM
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Jefferson County AL (Birmingham) has more than 50 incorporated cities and towns and 12 school districts. Is this really the direction Fulton and Dekalb want to go?

We don't need MORE cities in Metro ATL ... We need BIGGER and BETTER cities!
New school systems cannot be formed unless the state constitution is amended. We'll definitely get more cities, be we aren't getting any mroe school systems.
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Old 10-17-2012, 02:58 PM
 
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They'd have to come up with a better name than the city of Dekalb.

Then there's no running away from it. And the name Dekalb is a PR and marketing nightmare on every front.
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Old 10-17-2012, 03:13 PM
 
Location: Georgia native in McKinney, TX
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They'd have to come up with a better name than the city of Dekalb.

Then there's no running away from it. And the name Dekalb is a PR and marketing nightmare on every front.
A city of Cobb has been proposed in the not too distant past as well. That's an even worse name. Cobb, GA. Yuck. DeKalb, GA doesn't sound near as bad.
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Old 10-17-2012, 03:13 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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Great points.

I wish I knew what the answer is. Maybe CEO Ellis and the other Commissioners should've saw the writing on the wall and tried to strike a deal with the Brookhaven & Dunwoody areas before the incorporation began.

Maybe someone in those respective offices should've done an area by area tallying of just how much tax money was actually spent in those areas, and a proper justification could've been made for some areas getting more attention than others. Maybe an organized turn based process could've been designed to ensure that all areas in Dekalb county would receive a fair & proper level of attention in terms of infrastructure investments & improvements.

And maybe a state law should have designed to allow Dekalb to still get some of the tax money from the commercial districts that all of its citizens had collectively invested in through state taxes.

If only...

Now the metro Atlanta region is just a balkanized mess. The only way any sort of transportation improvements will happen here is to allow the federal government to tax Georgia to the level needed to make these improvements happen.

States Rights & local rulership in Georgia is far too insular, inept, & divided to allow for common sense & rational minds to get together, so I am more than comfortable letting the feds take the helm. The federal government had to do so in the past when it was obvious that Georgia's leadership was stuck on stupid, so given that things have not really change all that much in last 40 years it might as well be the same again.

Just my two cents on the matter.


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That's what is already happening, and at some point it's going to create a situation where there are several islands of poverty and crime that no city is willing to annex. Those places won't be able to become their own city, and the county won't have much in the way of resources to support them, thanks to all the cities stealing every piece of valuable real estate and all the wealthiest citizens.
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Old 10-17-2012, 03:16 PM
 
Location: Georgia native in McKinney, TX
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Incorporate Tucker and let them annex Northlake area. Incorporate North Decatur. Let Stone Mtn, Pine Lake, and Clarkston annex land east of I-285. Incorporate Panthersville, Scottdale, and Redan. Let Lithonia annex Stonecrest area. Let Atlanta annex Emory, Briarcliff, Toco Hills, and North Druid Hills.
I like this. Would make a few revisions. Not sure Pine Lake wants to be anything other than what it is today, a small lakeside community, like Mountain Park in N. Fulton and Berkeley Lake in Gwinnet.

You do leave out Avondale Estates. They should expand somewhat too. If Atlanta didn't take the areas you propose above, would be a good fit to go into Decatur. Not so certain if there is much in the Scottdale area to make a viable city, it should go into Decatur, Avondale or Clarkston.

I do like the thoughts of Panthersville incorporating. If nothing else, have always loved that name.
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