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Old 10-19-2012, 05:43 PM
 
Location: Johns Creek area
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Atlanta and Charlotte are both "first rate" cities. How can anyone possibly say otherwise? To do so is pretty intellectually dishonest.
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Old 10-19-2012, 06:27 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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Atlanta and Charlotte are both "first rate" cities. How can anyone possibly say otherwise? To do so is pretty intellectually dishonest.
I agree. It is a smaller city, but also rapidly growing and seems to be attracting choice jobs with pay.

It is also similar to us in beating the US average in the number of business travelers flying out.

US air is a smaller airline, but it has a wide reach from Charlotte on smaller planes.
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Old 10-19-2012, 08:33 PM
 
Location: Mableton, GA USA (NW Atlanta suburb, 4 miles OTP)
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Not sure what the passive aggressive comment was for, but you do realize that Atlanta pretty small not long ago and now is large in land area and population, but still isn't a 1st rate city and structurally never will be.
I was shocked to find that the Atlanta metro was smaller than the Twin Cities metro even as recently as 1980. That's what fast growth will get you, I guess.
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Old 10-19-2012, 09:24 PM
 
Location: Acworth
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Because it is pointless to extend it and pointless to build anything new. I have to say it at least 40 times a week. the problem is the last mile.

ok?

You cannot get from your house to anywhere without driving. This is not a city. Why the kerfuffle would you expand marta into milton?! You think the people there will walk in the rain or heat at 5am for 2 miles to get to the nearest station?!

And this is why, marta must never be expanded to pander to some people's delusions that this is NYC, and why LRT is virtually already obsolete, without even existing.
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Old 10-19-2012, 11:08 PM
 
Location: Decatur, GA
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I don't think anyone's seriously considering expanding MARTA rail to Milton. Alpharetta at Windward parkway? Yes, but it makes sense along the corridor, not so much to Milton.
For the suburbs, park and ride stations make sense, people can drive 2 miles to the rail, and still save half to a full hour over driving, or at least turn all commuting time into productive time.
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Old 10-20-2012, 01:53 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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Because it is pointless to extend it and pointless to build anything new. I have to say it at least 40 times a week. the problem is the last mile.

ok?

You cannot get from your house to anywhere without driving. This is not a city. Why the kerfuffle would you expand marta into milton?! You think the people there will walk in the rain or heat at 5am for 2 miles to get to the nearest station?!

And this is why, marta must never be expanded to pander to some people's delusions that this is NYC, and why LRT is virtually already obsolete, without even existing.
Exactly.

Atlantans don't even ponder using MARTA if they own a car, despite it getting them from Midtown to Lenox in half the time and stress-free. It's quite luxurious (excluding other passengers) to wisk through the trees at up to 80mph with only 1 30 second stop.

LRT sucks and is slow. MARTA's heavy rail is Atlanta's greatest and most precious. NO other city in America will ever be able to afford building a new HRT "backbone" like Atlanta already has. So cherish it, ride it, and extend it to new areas when the need arises.

I think the original was asking why can't Atlanta request and be granted federal funding for transit like Charlotte did, not as a comparison to Charlotte.

Charlotte's light rail wasn't about making money. It was to get more people to Charlotte's downtown core in a more efficient manor and take those 17,000 cars off the roads every weekday.

I doubt y'all even use MARTA on a regular basis, so stop advocating endlessly for rail in Atlanta.
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Old 10-20-2012, 07:13 PM
 
Location: 30080
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Exactly.

Atlantans don't even ponder using MARTA if they own a car, despite it getting them from Midtown to Lenox in half the time and stress-free. It's quite luxurious (excluding other passengers) to wisk through the trees at up to 80mph with only 1 30 second stop.

LRT sucks and is slow. MARTA's heavy rail is Atlanta's greatest and most precious. NO other city in America will ever be able to afford building a new HRT "backbone" like Atlanta already has. So cherish it, ride it, and extend it to new areas when the need arises.

I think the original was asking why can't Atlanta request and be granted federal funding for transit like Charlotte did, not as a comparison to Charlotte.

Charlotte's light rail wasn't about making money. It was to get more people to Charlotte's downtown core in a more efficient manor and take those 17,000 cars off the roads every weekday.

I doubt y'all even use MARTA on a regular basis, so stop advocating endlessly for rail in Atlanta.
Look at how limited MARTA is... um, yea...if you aren't in one of 4 main areas it's useless to you. That's kind of the point about expansion. If it was near, i'd use it. How or why is this hard to understand?
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Old 10-21-2012, 04:05 PM
 
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Look at how limited MARTA is... um, yea...if you aren't in one of 4 main areas it's useless to you. That's kind of the point about expansion. If it was near, i'd use it. How or why is this hard to understand?
I ride Marta everyday and trust I know folks from Villa Rica, Dacula Rex Jones boro Riverdale etc that are doing park and ride because they don't want to sit in traffic and they don't want to waste a lot of money on gas trying to commute. I see people standing outside on west peachtree. Right by midtown train station waiting on those large buses all the time.
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Old 10-22-2012, 10:44 AM
 
Location: Kirkwood
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I doubt y'all even use MARTA on a regular basis, so stop advocating endlessly for rail in Atlanta.
I ride it everyday for everything, not just commuting to work.
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Look at how limited MARTA is... um, yea...if you aren't in one of 4 main areas it's useless to you. That's kind of the point about expansion. If it was near, i'd use it. How or why is this hard to understand?
There are buses that connect just about every point in Fulton and DeKalb Counties to a station. Most places are accessible by transferring to 1 bus at a station. Rail-based transit isn't going to get you everywhere, its not economically sensible.
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Old 10-22-2012, 11:21 AM
 
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Rail-based transit isn't going to get you everywhere, its not economically sensible.
You have been paying attention to my lessons.
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