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Old 10-31-2012, 09:18 AM
 
Location: Atlanta
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It looks to me like they do match up. Where's the diff y'all are talking about?
There are several but the major part is the Eastern boundary.

ADNA makes 75/85 the eastern border, the CiD makes boulevard the eastern border, and npu m goes beyond that.

When people say 26,000 people live downtown... A lot of them actually live in the area east of 75/85.
Whereas ADNA is smaller and is mostly the central business area.
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Old 10-31-2012, 09:21 AM
 
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There are several but the major part is the Eastern boundary.

ADNA makes 75/85 the eastern border, the CiD makes boulevard the eastern border, and npu m goes beyond that.

When people say 26,000 people live downtown... A lot of them actually live in the area east of 75/85.
Whereas ADNA is smaller and is mostly the central business area.
Isn't this the definition of downtown?

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Old 10-31-2012, 10:57 AM
 
Location: Downtown Atlanta
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Isn't this the definition of downtown?
This NPU-M map provides one definition of downtown and it's perfectly usable as an official boundary.

But there's also the Atlanta Downtown Neighborhood Association's boundary map, which is a bit smaller than this and uses a combination of the interstate and Simpson Street as a northern boundary. I think this is a valid boundary too.

Then there's Central Atlanta Progress's downtown and the Atlanta Downtown Improvement District -- each of them have maps that differ from the others. So you've got (at least) four maps to choose from.

As a resident, I have a natural bias toward the ADNA map. It might be more correct to refer to that as the 'downtown neighborhood' map, I suppose, so it isn't confused with the others.
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Old 10-31-2012, 12:51 PM
 
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This NPU-M map provides one definition of downtown and it's perfectly usable as an official boundary.

But there's also the Atlanta Downtown Neighborhood Association's boundary map, which is a bit smaller than this and uses a combination of the interstate and Simpson Street as a northern boundary. I think this is a valid boundary too.
What was the Neighborhood Association's rationale for excluding the northwest quadrant between Simpson and North Avenue? I'm not saying they shouldn't, but I'd always thought of that as part of the traditional "downtown" area.
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Old 10-31-2012, 01:45 PM
 
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What was the Neighborhood Association's rationale for excluding the northwest quadrant between Simpson and North Avenue? I'm not saying they shouldn't, but I'd always thought of that as part of the traditional "downtown" area.
I'm not sure this is true anymore, I'll have to look at the map. I live at the Twelve Centennial and we are clearly apart of the Neighborhood association and our building amongst others are north of Simpson.
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Old 10-31-2012, 07:45 PM
 
Location: Downtown Atlanta
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What was the Neighborhood Association's rationale for excluding the northwest quadrant between Simpson and North Avenue? I'm not saying they shouldn't, but I'd always thought of that as part of the traditional "downtown" area.
Because it is now part of the Marietta Street Artery Association. They started their own association to better focus on issues particular to their area. No exclusion on part of ADNA so let's change our tone please arjay57
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Old 10-31-2012, 08:15 PM
 
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Because it is now part of the Marietta Street Artery Association. They started their own association to better focus on issues particular to their area. No exclusion on part of ADNA so let's change our tone please arjay57
No offense intended, Judge, and I appreciate the clarification. As I said, I wasn't suggesting that area shouldn't be omitted, just asking why.

Is it expected that the official neighborhood boundaries will be redrawn?
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Old 10-31-2012, 08:40 PM
 
Location: Downtown Atlanta
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No offense intended, Judge, and I appreciate the clarification. As I said, I wasn't suggesting that area shouldn't be omitted, just asking why.

Is it expected that the official neighborhood boundaries will be redrawn?
Being that this is Atlanta and seeing all the mismatched maps already posted, I doubt it. Even City Council members complain about the various boundaries, sometimes arbitrary, for neighborhoods that many times do not match their district boundaries. New district boundaries for city council next year will divide downtown in half.
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Old 10-31-2012, 09:34 PM
 
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Places near underground/five points have especially gone downhill in the recent years. I remember when underground was a must-see for tourists. Now whenever someone is visiting and wants to go to underground. I cringe and struggle to explain to them that it's gone from hero to zero.

I use to enjoy going to underground. The parks are riffe with homeless people.
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Old 10-31-2012, 10:30 PM
 
Location: Downtown Atlanta
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I'm not sure this is true anymore, I'll have to look at the map. I live at the Twelve Centennial and we are clearly apart of the Neighborhood association and our building amongst others are north of Simpson.
Good point. I described the northern boundary badly -- that section with the Twelve that's north of Simpson but east of Williams and south of the interstate is included in the ADNA boundary.

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