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Old 10-21-2012, 01:09 AM
 
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Time for Atlanta to attempt to re-attract developers to Atlanta or downtown Atlanta will be dead by 2025.
No it won't. But more investment definitely needs to be on the way, with that I do agree.
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Old 10-21-2012, 02:37 AM
 
Location: North Fulton
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Here, here. Knowing the full history of Downtown helps shape a more releastic picture of why Downtown is the way it is today. Not least of which the knowing the affect the 1917 fire (that wiped out 1/4 of the city's residential districts), the Depression, and public housing had on Downtown as district. What Downtown is today is a direct result of things that happened in the first half of last century. I suppose if one's memories of the last century were relegated to the Teletubbies and the Power Rangers, it might be hard to understand that.
Key points made here worth repeating about why Downtown is the way it is today. Much of how Downtown Atlanta is today is from its own history going back at least 100 years.
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Old 10-21-2012, 07:41 AM
 
Location: Historic West End
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I think Midtown owe its growth to Downtown. Downtown growth is inevitable, because all interstates merge there. The beltline will define Atlanta's greatness.
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Old 10-21-2012, 08:14 AM
 
Location: Sweet Home...CHICAGO
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Even if developers do come in to make downtown Atlanta more appealing. The questions are:

1. What is there to be re-developed?


2. What could they exactly do to make it more vibrant and appealing?

3. If some great shopping centers, restaurants, clubs were added, who would support then?

They already tried to revitalize The Underground and make it a great nightlife attraction and it was a fail.

Maybe it's not just poor city planning or lack of good development, but rather within the population of Atlanta itself people just aren't going to support anything downtown.
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Old 10-21-2012, 10:05 AM
 
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Time for Atlanta to attempt to re-attract developers to Atlanta or downtown Atlanta will be dead by 2025.
Atlanta has been ferociously trying to attract developers to downtown for decades.

For one thing, they've claimed it was "blighted" and turned into a TAD. As a result, they've paid out mega millions to developers to build there.

In addition, they've lobbied state, federal and local governments to invest zillions of dollars in downtown.

There have been countless planning studies and development plans.

Many private individuals and corporations have stepped up to create public spaces like Woodruff Park and Centennial Park, the Aquarium, the Coke museum, the Football museum, etc.

Downtown was singled out for the first streetcar in Atlanta. Large amounts of money have been invested in improving streetscapes.

Churches and other charitable organizations have made huge investments of time and money in dealing with the homeless.

We're still paying for Underground Atlanta bonds.

And on and on.


By the way, I heartily agree with that Roger Brooks article about the three key points for healthy downtowns. You have to make them attractive and create curb appeal. That means getting trash off the streets, lighting dark, enclosed spaces, and making sure people aren't hassled by bums. The same applies to making them places where women feel safe. And there's no question that staying open in the evening is critical. Downtown does a pretty good job of that in some areas, but there's plenty of room for improvement.
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Old 10-21-2012, 01:33 PM
 
Location: International Spacestation
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There is this one area of Peachtree between Underground & Greyhound Bus Station that reminds me of those ugly villages in Africa. Everything in this location looks super depressed & dirty. There are more bums in this strech of Peachtree than there is at Woodruff park. Its like the convention of Atlantas dirtiest people. Very bad area.
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Old 10-21-2012, 02:37 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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There is this one area of Peachtree between Underground & Greyhound Bus Station that reminds me of those ugly villages in Africa. Everything in this location looks super depressed & dirty. There are more bums in this strech of Peachtree than there is at Woodruff park. Its like the convention of Atlantas dirtiest people. Very bad area.
I've noticed this about the bus stations in many other cities - they're in the worst possible part of town. What's up with that?
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Old 10-21-2012, 05:49 PM
 
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It should be mentioned that Midtown formed CID (community improvement district) way back in the 1970's called Midtown Alliance so businesses in the district have been imposing additional taxes on themselves for decades to put money into improving the area and millions are put in each year, thus a lot of improvements that other areas may not have.
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Old 10-21-2012, 08:33 PM
 
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Yeah, downtown is...sigh...

People have been talking about the change right around the corner for decades now. I agree with the poster who said it's ghetto. That nails a lot of the problem and unfortunately it will probably never get properly addressed because it's twisted into a race issue as soon as someone points it out.

I also agree that it has "good bones." structurally downtown has a lot of potential but "there's no there there."
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Old 10-21-2012, 09:27 PM
 
Location: Sacramento, CA
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I used to go to ATL for business 2-3x a year, and would ALWAYS see yellow crime scene tape near Five Points. I don't see how anyone can stand working in downtown ATL. Between the hood rats, the ghetto behavior, and the crime, it feels incredibly dangerous to me. You won't get people to invest in downtown ATL unless you get rid of the thugs, homeless, trash, and crime. Its that simple. But the minute you start to move against this kind of stuff, people start screaming racism... sigh...
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