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Old 11-29-2012, 05:31 PM
 
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I personally believe the issue is cultural and not due to genetics.
To be fair, I think Ant131531 was basing his comments on African American culture in America, not genetics.

He may not have said it well, but he has a point. In the metro area, much of the crime is caused by black suspects. That's not to say that black people are genetically inferior, it's to say that they are generally raised in less ideal environments without as much value placed on education and hard work. In areas where this culture exists among a large portion of the white population (and I can think of a few areas like this in Florida), you have a larger amount of crime caused by white suspects.

Crime is often a result of poor upbrining and a bad moral compass. We happen to have a lot of black people who grow up in this environment in Atlanta, but it's not simply because the people are black. Black kids raised in good households with proper parental care and guidance are no more likely to be criminals than their white counterparts.
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Old 11-29-2012, 05:57 PM
 
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Crime is often a result of poor upbrining and a bad moral compass. We happen to have a lot of black people who grow up in this environment in Atlanta, but it's not simply because the people are black. Black kids raised in good households with proper parental care and guidance are no more likely to be criminals than their white counterparts.
We've got a bazillion sorry white and Hispanic people, too. Somehow Asian folks seem to hold it in the road.
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Old 11-29-2012, 06:13 PM
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We've got a bazillion sorry white and Hispanic people, too. Somehow Asian folks seem to hold it in the road.
If you go to Minnesota, Wisconsin, New England, or California, you can find Asian gangs, like MOD, and ABZ.
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Old 11-29-2012, 06:23 PM
 
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Right but we don't seem to have as much of a problem with them here.
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Old 11-29-2012, 06:23 PM
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I personally believe the issue is cultural and not due to genetics. The same people growing up in a different place would likely be quite different. Of course, I'm living in the 21st century and not the early 20th, so that shouldn't be a surprise.
Proof of this is my own experiences. Part of it is place. Another part is who a person hangs around. I knew some Black kids who lived in Paulding County, and some were hanging around "wannabe hood rats" and started behaving as such. In addition, I met quite a few White criminals as well. Culture plays a part. Another part is this: Where are the parents? Most people I know, of any race, who behaved like criminals had one thing in common: the parents were not keeping up with the kids like they should have.
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Old 11-29-2012, 06:26 PM
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Right but we don't seem to have as much of a problem with them here.
Which brings an important question: Why is it that there aren't many Asian gang members in Georgia, versus places I mentioned?

I notice something else. Atlanta's Black gang scene isn't like what you might see in Chicago or Los Angeles. I have seen more Hispanic gang members around than Black gang members.
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Old 11-29-2012, 08:51 PM
 
Location: Mableton, GA USA (NW Atlanta suburb, 4 miles OTP)
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If you go to Minnesota, Wisconsin, New England, or California, you can find Asian gangs, like MOD, and ABZ.
That in the Hmong community?
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Old 11-29-2012, 08:55 PM
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That in the Hmong community?
In Minnesota and Wisconsin, it's in the Hmong community. In California, and parts of New England(CT and MA), you can find Cambodian gangs like the Tiny Rascals Gang and the Asian Boyz. San Francisco has the Triads.

You can find criminals and gang members of every ethnicity in this country. Atlanta is a major area for the Black Mafia Family. You also have MS 13, Surenos, Neo-Nazis have been reported to be in Georgia.

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Old 11-29-2012, 09:57 PM
 
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Wow, gangs need better marketing. Most of those names sound like providers of underage gay escorts.
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Old 11-30-2012, 07:54 AM
 
Location: Kirkwood
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Everything I've seen shows that Gwinnett crime rates peaked around 2003 and are consistently trending down.
The whole nation's crime rate is trending down.
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I suspect you are generalizing, in order to support your belief that city crime is unavoidable, that it's only a matter of time before the suburbs follow suit, and therefore, people might as well live in the city.
Believe wtf every you want to.
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