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Old 12-10-2012, 12:50 PM
 
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On average, yes.

Among people who have kids, the parents who marry are more likely to be future-time oriented planners and the parents who don't marry are more likely to be short-term thinkers looking for immediate gratification.

Also, people who don't have kids are less concerned about the stability of society since they don't have a personal stake in the future. They are less likely to think about the destabilizing effects of policy changes, like no-fault divorce or gay adoption.

I hope you weren't serious when you asked me if parents who spend more time on their kids are more responsible than parents who spend less time on their kids.
I think he was trying to say "people who don't want to have kids." Not people who have kids but just don't want to take care of them.
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Old 12-10-2012, 12:52 PM
 
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OP, you are surprised that overwhelmingly white far distant fringe metro counties would vote for the modern Confederates?
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Old 12-10-2012, 01:04 PM
 
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On average, yes.

Among people who have kids, the parents who marry are more likely to be future-time oriented planners and the parents who don't marry are more likely to be short-term thinkers looking for immediate gratification.

Also, people who don't have kids are less concerned about the stability of society since they don't have a personal stake in the future. They are less likely to think about the destabilizing effects of policy changes, like no-fault divorce or gay adoption.

I hope you weren't serious when you asked me if parents who spend more time on their kids are more responsible than parents who spend less time on their kids.

Lets back up and try this again.

1. Never said anything about good or bad parent nor anything about marriage.
You implied that people who have kids period are more responsible then those who choose not to have that burden and that is total crap.


2. You said people who lived in apartments were less responsible then those who take out huge loans on a mortgage. That is also total crap.
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Old 12-10-2012, 01:09 PM
 
Location: Jupiter, FL
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2. You said people who lived in apartments were less responsible then those who take out huge loans on a mortgage. That is also total crap.
No, it's merely the truth.
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Old 12-10-2012, 01:13 PM
 
Location: Mableton, GA USA (NW Atlanta suburb, 4 miles OTP)
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I don't know how OP's question about political conservatism could be answered in non-political terms.

Correct. Similarly, there are many wealthy people who are not educated. That doesn't change the fact that, on average, educated people are much more likely to become wealthy.

On average, people who plan their life tend to vote Republican while people who don't plan their life tend to vote Democrat.

Also, people who have trouble with simple mathematical concepts like averages and statistical outliers tend to be more easily fooled into believing liberal smokescreens that are used to obscure real social patterns.
I've found that highly educated people tend to veer Democrat in general, while traditional/religious people and old-money business people tend to veer Republican.

I find some of your statements insulting, frankly. Minnesota and Massachusetts vote majority Democrat on a fairly consistent basis for a reason, and it isn't a lack of planning. That would be ... Georgia!

If a person assumes that people are generally good and that collective efforts can sometimes provides real benefits, I've found that person generally tends to lean Democrat.

If, on the other hand, a person believes that people are generally evil and must be controlled, and that collective efforts are little more than attempts to leverage control away from individuals, then I've found that person tends to lean towards the Republican party.

A bit simplistic, obviously, but I've also found many conservatives to be reactive rather than proactive.
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Old 12-10-2012, 01:23 PM
 
Location: Jupiter, FL
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I find some of your statements insulting, frankly.
I'm not surprised. Liberals are often people who carry emotional baggage and prefer to try to reshape society to conform to their deviancy from the norm rather than addressing their own issues. When I present observations and facts to liberals, their reaction is usually emotional rather than analytical. This thread is a good example.

Some of the responses to me have been so hysterical that they are indecipherable.
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Old 12-10-2012, 01:25 PM
 
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Those areas (and north Fulton county too) are a bastion of evangelical Christianity, and it is mega-church city up there. There is your reason. Nothing to do with race.
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Old 12-10-2012, 01:26 PM
 
Location: Jupiter, FL
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OP, you are surprised that overwhelmingly white far distant fringe metro counties would vote for the modern Confederates?
It's almost as if they have some kind of biological instinct to oppose the genocide of their own people.

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Genocide is the deliberate and systematic destruction, in whole or in part, of an ethnic, racial, religious, or national group
And the settlers seem to instinctively enjoy mocking the existing people and their culture.
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Old 12-10-2012, 01:35 PM
 
Location: West Midtown
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I'm not surprised. Liberals are often people who carry emotional baggage and prefer to try to reshape society to conform to their deviancy from the norm rather than addressing their own issues. When I present observations and facts to liberals, their reaction is usually emotional rather than analytical. This thread is a good example.

Some of the responses to me have been so hysterical that they are indecipherable.
I am still waiting on facts to back your claim???
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Old 12-10-2012, 01:45 PM
 
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I'm not surprised. Liberals are often people who carry emotional baggage and prefer to try to reshape society to conform to their deviancy from the norm rather than addressing their own issues. When I present observations and facts to liberals, their reaction is usually emotional rather than analytical. This thread is a good example.

Some of the responses to me have been so hysterical that they are indecipherable.

Strange how the most highly educated states and individuals vote democrat/liberal.

Aside from that do you have any credible non biase sources for your claim?
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