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Old 10-21-2007, 09:11 PM
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Husband and I are looking to move to one of these communities. We are an interracial couple(he's Panamanian/white) and I'm black American. We've got a toddler/boy, and we are slightly concerned about racism after hearing that more than 100 kids from one of the Canton high schools got together to protest their right to wear the Confederate flag. I was raised in rural South Carolina in predominantly white areas where pockets of hardcore "racial traditionalist" resided. I was never beat up or harassed physically, but the climate was often "warm" coming my way, even from many of my so called teachers. I have no interest in my son experiencing this type of thing on a large scale, so I'm wondering what diversity is like in these two communities. Will we be one of only a handful of families of color out in these masterplanned communities?

This is America, so you may live where you want to live, even of others don't want you there. By staying awayh from these places you let them win! As more and more blacks and other races become middle and upper class they want to live in nice areas and as long as they can afford to they should be able to.

Another poster mentioned that there were more illegals than blacks and I would say thats true. I had a friend who was a LNP at one of the hospitals and she left because she couldn't speak Spanish (she moved to Douglasville coincendentally and loved it).

Anyway, when my husband and I make our next move we plan to move to an area with great schools as our number one priority. We can afford it so why not (we don't have kids yet) and could give a rats patooty if people don't want us there Update the post when you make your move.

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Old 10-22-2007, 05:03 AM
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This is America, so you may live where you want to live, even of others don't want you there. By staying awayh from these places you let them win! As more and more blacks and other races become middle and upper class they want to live in nice areas and as long as they can afford to they should be able to.

Another poster mentioned that there were more illegals than blacks and I would say thats true. I had a friend who was a LNP at one of the hospitals and she left because she couldn't speak Spanish (she moved to Douglasville coincendentally and loved it).

Anyway, when my husband and I make our next move we plan to move to an area with great schools as our number one priority. We can afford it so why not (we don't have kids yet) and could give a rats patooty if people don't want us there Update the post when you make your move.
"Good schools" means predominately white schools and we all know it.

Intelligence quotient tests across the races reveal that whites and Asians are neck and neck, while Hispanics and blacks lag far behind.

Behavior issues are also a problem in schools where blacks number any sizeable percentage.

Most schools are fairly equal in teacher quality. It's the kids, and the students receptiveness, behavior, etc. that makes these schools full of minorities as bad schools. The good to honest truth.

I also wanted to add that there are plenty of decent areas (not schools) in metro Atlanta where someone can live if they want an upper middle class lifestyle. Let's think Lithonia or Cascade Road. One doesn't always need to be searching out white areas, because more than likely, as is often the case, the white area will suffer. The "community" of the place will be lost forever, whites will move away, the schools will deteriorate, some businesses will leave, crime will increase, many properties will lose their attractiveness, etc. It's a downward spiral. To even suggest to support actions that will bring about such is wrong, in my opinion.

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Old 10-22-2007, 07:16 AM
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Well, as a southern boy who moved to California, I was surprised that no one other than myself and a couple of other southern white boys even bothered to try to befriend black students at the college.

But maybe that's a California thing - image is more important than reality.
And which College are you speaking of? I think that truly was a isolated incident. In California that's not even a issue since diversity is so widespread and accepted.

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Old 10-22-2007, 07:18 AM
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Oh, just shocking.

I'm shocked about Berkeley.
You wouldn't make it in California, the diversity would overwhelm you...LOL.

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Old 10-22-2007, 04:26 PM
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You wouldn't make it in California, the diversity would overwhelm you...LOL.
My wife is from California, the high desert to be exact, and the diversity there is less than what I experienced growing up in metro Atlanta. Not all areas of California are third world multi-cult dumps (what you prefer), but sadly it is all turning into such.

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You wouldn't make it in California, the diversity would overwhelm you...LOL.
You misspelled density.

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Old 10-22-2007, 04:46 PM
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My wife is from California, the high desert to be exact, and the diversity there is less than what I experienced growing up in metro Atlanta. Not all areas of California are third world multi-cult dumps (what you prefer), but sadly it is all turning into such.
Exactly my point, The High Desert is quite possibly the least desired area of Southern California to live in!

The High Desert area since the 90's consists of mostly rednecks/meth-heads/ghetto trash from poor urban areas and new arrivals from Mexico and Central America who couldn't make it in the more desirable areas of the Los Angeles basin (Areas like West LA, Southern Orange County, Beach Cities, South Pas, San Marino, La Canada, etc).

Congrats Bro! Your wife happens to be from one of those dumps! Congrats.

Before the mid 90's the High Desert was mostly a bastion of The Aryan Nation types and meth heads and it's pop. was mostly white. The High Desert is 1.5-2 hours away from the main LA basin where the most expensive and desirable areas are. It's considered a DUMP with over 110 degree temps in the summer and very cold at night and the winter (even snows sometims) and it's for people who can't afford to live somewhere better.

And if you knew anything about the nicer parts of LA (That I mentioned above) you would know that the desirable areas (Like Ladera Heights where I'm from and Santa Monica where I went to High School at) haven't experienced any type of drop off in quality of life from the immigrant infusion because it's too expensive for High Desert/Ghetto trash and immigrants to afford. These are some of the most expensive real estate addresses in the USA!

Too bad you never got to see the real LA . Cali..great place to visit(Just make sure your not in The High Desert)!

Does this sound like the type of place to compare to West LA?...Just imagine how the town was years ago when your wife was growing up...
High Desert (California - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia)

Here is a thread on your beloved High Desert that you think is the real LA...Comedy Hour!
What can you tell me about Victorville?

Definately not the real California!...What a joke!

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Old 10-22-2007, 04:59 PM
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Exactly my point, The High Desert is quite possibly the least desired area of Southern California to live in!

The High Desert area since the 90's consists of mostly rednecks/meth-heads/ghetto trash from poor urban areas and new arrivals from Mexico and Central America who couldn't make it in the more desirable areas of the Los Angeles basin (Areas like West LA, Southern Orange County, Beach Cities, South Pas, San Marino, La Canada, etc).

Congrats Bro! Your wife happens to be from one of those dumps! Congrats.

Before the mid 90's the High Desert was mostly a bastion of The Aryan Nation types and meth heads and it's pop. was mostly white. The High Desert is 1.5-2 hours away from the main LA basin where the most expensive and desirable areas are. It's considered a DUMP with over 110 degree temps in the summer and very cold at night and the winter (even snows sometims) and it's for people who can't afford to live somewhere better.

And if you knew anything about the nicer parts of LA (That I mentioned above) you would know that the desirable areas (Like Ladera Heights where I'm from and Santa Monica where I went to High School at) haven't experienced any type of drop off in quality of life from the immigrant infusion because it's too expensive for High Desert/Ghetto trash and immigrants to afford. These are some of the most expensive real estate addresses in the USA!

Too bad you never got to see the real LA . Cali..great place to visit(Just make sure your not in The High Desert)!
You are ridiculous. The LA Basin, most of it anyhow, IS A DUMP. It's full of third world trash dorning their businesses in Spanish, walking alongside the streets tagging the buildings in Spanish. With the exceptions of S. Orange County, the coastal areas, up along the mountain range, and a few places in the empire, it is practically Mexico or a foreign country. That you'd desire such a place speaks volumes.

I never claimed that the High Desert was nice. Much of Hesperia is a dump, as is a large chunk of Victorville. Apple Valley is decent, as is the Spring Valley Lake area. The worst is Adelanto, which might as well be an abandoned town.

Yet, a sheer percentage of the basin is just as bad. The schools are better in the high desert, considering that there is a lower percentage of foreign-born students (it's still high, however).

Most homes range from $275,000-450,000 in the high desert. I wouldn't call that a dump by any means. There are areas in the barrios and ghettos of the basin where you will find homes cheaper than that. However, the inflated real estate in California is what has driven much of the middle class away, leaving nothing but wealthy and a horde of third world foreigners who shack up ten to a unit. Much of the rest of the middle class are leaving. The real estate market in California stinks, whether it is in the high desert, the basin, or in the western hills. Its time has come and gone.

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Old 10-22-2007, 05:17 PM
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You are ridiculous. The LA Basin, most of it anyhow, IS A DUMP. It's full of third world trash dorning their businesses in Spanish, walking alongside the streets tagging the buildings in Spanish. With the exceptions of S. Orange County, the coastal areas, up along the mountain range, and a few places in the empire, it is practically Mexico or a foreign country. That you'd desire such a place speaks volumes.

I never claimed that the High Desert was nice. Much of Hesperia is a dump, as is a large chunk of Victorville. Apple Valley is decent, as is the Spring Valley Lake area. The worst is Adelanto, which might as well be an abandoned town.

Yet, a sheer percentage of the basin is just as bad. The schools are better in the high desert, considering that there is a lower percentage of foreign-born students (it's still high, however).

Most homes range from $275,000-450,000 in the high desert. I wouldn't call that a dump by any means. There are areas in the barrios and ghettos of the basin where you will find homes cheaper than that. However, the inflated real estate in California is what has driven much of the middle class away, leaving nothing but wealthy and a horde of third world foreigners who shack up ten to a unit. Much of the rest of the middle class are leaving. The real estate market in California stinks, whether it is in the high desert, the basin, or in the western hills. Its time has come and gone.
I speak of the areas that I grew up in buddy; I didn't grow up in the trashy type areas that you’re speaking of. You cannot compare The High Desert Dump that your wife is from to the neighborhoods where I lived and attended school.
Far from dumps, matter a fact they are the most expensive areas in California!

Ladera Heights, California - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
View Park-Windsor Hills, California - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Santa Monica, California - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
South Pasadena, California - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Berkeley, California - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The housing market sucks in the least desirable areas of LA (Like where your wife is from).
Desirable areas of LA are seeing no drop off. And if you bought a long time ago or have had property deeded down to you () your in business baby!

Do any of these areas look or seem like dumps to anyone? It all depends what your exposed to and can afford. Back to the OP' question, my advice is to choose an area that fits you and your children' needs. If you have to pay a little bit more it's worth it, you don't want to end up in a "High Desert" type of dump because the housing may be cheaper. My 2 cents.

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I speak of the areas that I grew up in buddy, I didn't grow up in the trashy type areas that you speak of and that High Desert dump your wife is from. You can't compare that to these n'hoods where I lived and went to school at.
That last sentence does say something about the quality of the schools.

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