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Old 01-28-2013, 09:29 PM
 
Location: Georgia
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Atlanta and Reed will do everything to keep the Falcons downtown. I think the Gulch idea is the best, but let's not forget that the Dome is already suspended above roads, railroads, and MARTA lines. Downtown has the infrastructure to handle a stadium and the tens of thousands of people that go with it. There are existing restaurants and bars around the GWCC campus to handle the people. 2 MARTA stops with a short walk to 2 more.
Which is why I suggest razing the Dome and building the new stadium on top of it. Look at the overhead view of the Gulch--a new stadium will be about twice as large, and they'll have to do a lot of demolition just to fit it in. At the very least, the MLK bridge and the parking deck across from Philips would have to go.
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Old 01-29-2013, 07:51 AM
 
Location: Kirkwood
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Which is why I suggest razing the Dome and building the new stadium on top of it. Look at the overhead view of the Gulch--a new stadium will be about twice as large, and they'll have to do a lot of demolition just to fit it in. At the very least, the MLK bridge and the parking deck across from Philips would have to go.
But, if its built in the Gulch it can have direct access to the MMPT and Five Points via the MMPT. Also, it would help South Downtown, think of a Wrigleyville down there.
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Old 01-29-2013, 08:11 AM
 
Location: Kirkwood
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There is enough room between all the bridges, and above no active railroads. The parking garage across from Philips will have to be torn down. https://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&l...13937&t=h&z=17
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Old 01-29-2013, 11:25 AM
 
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Interesting topic.

Cobb throwing their hat in the ring? Not sure how they are doing that considering their financial position. What are they going to offer? Land? Infrastructure? The land would cost them nothing as they will go seize whatever they want by eminent domain. Typical example of a government out of control. Infrastructure? Would cost a hundred million dollars for a project this size. Where are they going to get it?

You guys certainly know more about it than I do, but I just do not see it. I guess if Blank is going to pay for it out of his own pocket, it does not matter much where it goes. I just get fascinated by all these governmental officials who talk a big game, knowing they are standing on quick sand. It gets to be a joke after a while.
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Old 01-29-2013, 11:28 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Architect finalists for new Falcons stadium named

The Atlanta Falcons want a new, $1 billion stadium.

Atlanta Business ChronicleAs discussion heats up about how to fund a new $1 billion stadium for the Atlanta Falcons, works continues to select a lead architect.

Five architecture firms were announced Monday as finalists on the Georgia Procurement Registry:

360 Architects
Ewing-Cole
HKS Inc.
Populous + Shop
Tvsdesign/Heery/Gensler
Ten firms had responded to a request for qualifications late last year.

“Each finalist will now prepare a Design Services Proposal and formal presentation that will include the first conceptual designs for the project,” the Georgia World Congress Center Authority said in a statement. “Interviews will be scheduled in the next 30 days.”

A decision on a lead architect could come in February. “However, the schedule for the remaining process is still to be determined,” Richard Sawyer, project procurement director, said in an email.

Design fees could command 6 percent to 11 percent of the approximately $700 million construction budget, Sawyer said in an earlier interview.

The new stadium could be up to 1.8 million square feet, with seating for up to 80,000 fans. It would be built to meet the standards of the NFL, the National Collegiate Athletic Association, Major League Soccer and the Fédération Internationale de Football Association (FIFA).

Of the finalists, Kansas City, Mo.-based sports and entertainment architecture firm Populous has one of the largest stadium portfolios on the list. Populous already has been involved with the new Falcons project, conducting feasibility studies since 2010.

Populous has been the architect on about a dozen new NFL stadiums and renovations. Among those are Heinz Field, home of the Pittsburgh Steelers; FedEx Field, home of the Washington Redskins; and Gillette Stadium, home of the New England Patriots.

Populous also designed a replacement for Wembley Stadium, one of the most famous sporting and entertainment venues in Britain. It also worked on the Olympic Stadium for the London 2012 Games, as well as Atlanta’s Philips Arena.

Another candidate is HKS Sports & Entertainment Group, a Dallas-based firm with a large office in Atlanta.

HKS has designed two of the most recent NFL stadiums: Lucas Oil Stadium, home of the Indianapolis Colts, and Cowboys Stadium, home of the Dallas Cowboys. Both feature retractable roofs — a key design element of the proposed new Falcons stadium.

HKS also recently was selected to design the new home of the Minnesota Vikings.

Another contender is Atlanta-based tvsdesign, which has teamed up with Atlanta-based Heery International Inc. and global firm Gensler to bid on the project.

Among its portfolio, tvs designed the Georgia World Congress Center and the Music City Convention Center in Nashville, Tenn.

In joint ventures with others, Heery was the architect on the Georgia Dome, as well as Turner Field. It’s also worked on several collegiate facilities, including the softball stadium at The University of Georgia.
Populous has the most experience, but I think a lot of their projects are pretty hit or miss. FedEx field is a bland stadium in the middle of nowhere.

I think HKS did a good job with Lucas Oil. The Jerry Dome is obviously impressive, but I don't like its location.

Heery doesn't seem to have what it takes to deliver a quality football stadium. Their two biggest projects are convention centers, and they did the Georgia Dome which is being replaced after less than 25 years.
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Old 01-29-2013, 03:36 PM
 
Location: Mableton, GA USA (NW Atlanta suburb, 4 miles OTP)
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Interesting topic.

Cobb throwing their hat in the ring? Not sure how they are doing that considering their financial position. What are they going to offer? Land? Infrastructure? The land would cost them nothing as they will go seize whatever they want by eminent domain. Typical example of a government out of control. Infrastructure? Would cost a hundred million dollars for a project this size. Where are they going to get it?
If you read the article, the offer was presented half jokingly. Maybe an SSPLOST?

Personally, I think the Bankhead Birds has a bit of a ring to it...
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Old 01-29-2013, 08:02 PM
 
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Cobb throwing their hat in the ring? Not sure how they are doing that considering their financial position. What are they going to offer? Land? Infrastructure? The land would cost them nothing as they will go seize whatever they want by eminent domain. Typical example of a government out of control. Infrastructure? Would cost a hundred million dollars for a project this size. Where are they going to get it?
Cobb has plenty of money.
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Old 01-30-2013, 08:00 AM
 
Location: Kirkwood
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Cobb has plenty of money.
Funny they'll spend hundreds of millions on a stadium that is used 8 times a year, but won't invest in transit? Let they spend all the money and get screwed like Arlington!
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Old 01-30-2013, 04:37 PM
 
Location: Mableton, GA USA (NW Atlanta suburb, 4 miles OTP)
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Funny they'll spend hundreds of millions on a stadium that is used 8 times a year, but won't invest in transit? Let they spend all the money and get screwed like Arlington!
Cobb invests rather a lot of money in transit. We have a TSPLOST on a regular basis. What gives you the impression that they don't? All transit projects don't require MARTA support...
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Old 01-30-2013, 09:31 PM
 
Location: Georgia
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Cobb invests rather a lot of money in transit. We have a TSPLOST on a regular basis. What gives you the impression that they don't? All transit projects don't require MARTA support...
Cobb has transit? Like, all three of their bus routes?
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