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Old 03-17-2013, 01:32 PM
 
Location: City of Atlanta
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I'm starting to get concerned that the Beltline will be overdeveloped.

The trail is already crowded -- what happens when you add thousands more who want to use it?
I don't think the trail will seem as over developed once it spreads out away from that 2 mile stretch. If they start using this successful portion to start linking other areas, development will spread. IMO, the reason the beltline in the west end area isn't developing as quickly is because it isn't really linked to places a lot of people want to go, unlike the east side trail which links up to gentrified neighborhoods with lots going on. If they start expanding from the successful trail, I think development will move along with it, which will help the currently less desirable areas along the beltline progressively get more desirable. Then, the trail will be longer, and while there will be more people on it than now, it won't seem as crowded.
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Old 03-18-2013, 07:23 AM
 
Location: Kirkwood
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I don't think the trail will seem as over developed once it spreads out away from that 2 mile stretch. If they start using this successful portion to start linking other areas, development will spread. IMO, the reason the beltline in the west end area isn't developing as quickly is because it isn't really linked to places a lot of people want to go, unlike the east side trail which links up to gentrified neighborhoods with lots going on. If they start expanding from the successful trail, I think development will move along with it, which will help the currently less desirable areas along the beltline progressively get more desirable. Then, the trail will be longer, and while there will be more people on it than now, it won't seem as crowded.
Work starts soon on extending the Eastside Trail to DeKalb Ave and eventually Glennwood Park and Grant Park neighborhoods. The Edgewood Ave Bridge needs to be replaced.
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Old 03-18-2013, 12:57 PM
 
Location: City of Atlanta
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Work starts soon on extending the Eastside Trail to DeKalb Ave and eventually Glennwood Park and Grant Park neighborhoods. The Edgewood Ave Bridge needs to be replaced.
I hope it's extended sooner rather than later. They will have to stop at the Fuqua "Development" in Glenwood Park though because that is where the active rail line ends. Hopefully the city will acquire the ROW in Grant Park and be able to extend it further, lessening the burden on the crowded Eastside Trail.
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Old 03-18-2013, 02:30 PM
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I hope it's extended sooner rather than later.
Me too. The bridge replacement is going to take a year. They're not going to be able to pave the section between Irwin and Dekalb Ave while bridge work is being done, so that's probably still a couple years out. I would think they'd fast-track that section once the bridge is completed, since the Krog Market project is going to be new and bringing a lot of attention to the area.

I read somewhere that the Reynoldstown portion is scheduled to be paved this year.
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Old 03-18-2013, 02:37 PM
 
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I'm starting to get concerned that the Beltline will be overdeveloped.

The trail is already crowded -- what happens when you add thousands more who want to use it?
Overdeveloped!?!

If the Beltline was designed so that people can have secluded walks in the wilderness you would be right. Thankfully, the Beltline is about re-building a city - parks, trails, transit and DENSE, walkable neighborhoods that can support that transit. It doesn't matter that the transit is years away. Its still better to have walkable neighborhoods and at least some activity nodes in place along the Beltline that can support transit.
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Old 03-20-2013, 07:02 AM
 
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Does anyone know how they will connect from Dekalb to Wylie? I know Krog tunnel will be used until something permanent is done, but have they come up with a permanent solution? The CSX Hulsey yard is kind of an obstacle..
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Old 03-20-2013, 07:50 AM
 
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Does anyone know how they will connect from Dekalb to Wylie? I know Krog tunnel will be used until something permanent is done, but have they come up with a permanent solution? The CSX Hulsey yard is kind of an obstacle..
I think the Krog tunnel will be part of walking trail. They are still looking at options for transit including adding a new connection going under Husley Yard and connecting with King or Inman MARTA stations.
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Old 03-20-2013, 09:51 AM
 
Location: Grant Park
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Does anyone know how they will connect from Dekalb to Wylie? I know Krog tunnel will be used until something permanent is done, but have they come up with a permanent solution? The CSX Hulsey yard is kind of an obstacle..
I think the news from yesterday that ABI is now officially onto cross-town streetcars (which was easily predicted via the TIA proposal) doesn't bode well for any SE extension of the BL.

Crossing Hulsey is a huge obstacle, but possibly even more significant is the lack of ROW in the SE. The ROI on any work south of Edgewood Ave is significantly limited by the ROW dead end. The possible/probable 800 Glenwood development is another significant obstacle/unknown.

What I'm saying is that I don't believe any Hulsey crossing other than Krog St. is anywhere in the near future - maybe 15-20 years away, if ever.
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Old 03-20-2013, 09:54 AM
 
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Overdeveloped!?!

If the Beltline was designed so that people can have secluded walks in the wilderness you would be right. Thankfully, the Beltline is about re-building a city - parks, trails, transit and DENSE, walkable neighborhoods that can support that transit. It doesn't matter that the transit is years away. Its still better to have walkable neighborhoods and at least some activity nodes in place along the Beltline that can support transit.
Yeah but how dense do we want to go?
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Old 03-20-2013, 10:06 AM
 
Location: Kirkwood
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I think the Krog tunnel will be part of walking trail. They are still looking at options for transit including adding a new connection going under Husley Yard and connecting with King or Inman MARTA stations.
Moreland Ave and Memorial Drive could be used to connect to Inman Park/Reynoldstown Station from NE section to SE section, therefore avoiding Krog Tunnel.
Also, DeKalb Ave, Hillard\Grant Street, and Memorial Drive could be used to connect to King Memorial Station.
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