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Old 02-27-2013, 11:07 AM
 
Location: Grant Park
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Not relevant to the discussion.
We'll just have to politely agree to disagree on that.
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Old 02-27-2013, 11:14 AM
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We'll just have to politely agree to disagree on that.
I agree we should strive for quality development, but what we're talking about here is only whether or not developers have interest in the land. Obviously they do, which you know since you brought up Fuqua by name.

As for mixed use, I thought the plan included some residental units, but looking at it more closely, that doesn't seem to be the case, so I concede on that point.
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Old 02-27-2013, 11:14 AM
 
Location: Grant Park
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English Ave. and Vine City have received millions in investments as well, yet they are (probably) the worst neighborhoods in Atlanta. The idea that restricting development in one area will force development in another is ridiculous. Let it happen, drive up the land value on the East side and development will naturally flow to cheaper land, people will flow to cheaper leases/rents. Basically, we should be rooting for a bonanza of development on the east, south, north, and west. The idea of the Beltline is a connected community. Thus, if this becomes reality, someone wanting to party/live in VaHi, but can't afford it, should theoretically be able to live on the Southside of town, and take the Beltline path/rail to VaHi easily!

I can't speak in regards to English Ave. and Vine City - I don't know the projects you're talking about. But, I think I'm safe in suggesting they were very little compared to the Eastside Trail and Streetcar. Also, like I said earlier, the success of the Eastside Trail was predictable and a smart move. Now it's time to expand on that success - I think we agree on that.
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Old 02-27-2013, 11:20 AM
 
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In my opinion, as more of the Beltline gets paved, we'll see devlopment in more areas.
The West End trail has been paved and open for years. Why not put a moratorium on new permits in the NE quadrant and let the south and west sides of town catch up?

If development there is allowed fall further and further behind, it will become increasingly difficult to ever make up the gap.

And we can't ignore the realities of race and class. The NE quadrant is predominantly white and affluent. The west side is predominantly black and relatively less affluent.

Where's the justice in that? And is this a situation we want to perpetuate with a publicly funded project?
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Old 02-27-2013, 11:21 AM
 
Location: Grant Park
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I think the success of *just* the trail on the Eastside speaks for itself. In my opinion, the city should drop all other goals and just build the freaking path around the city! If we get that 22 mile loop of trails that would be an excellent platform to grow the tax base for the rail portion.

I couldn't agree more.
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Old 02-27-2013, 11:25 AM
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The West End trail has been paved and open for years. Why not put a moratorium on new permits in the NE quadrant and let the south and west sides of town catch up?
Because a moratorium wouldn't have the result you think it will.

I haven't been over to the West End trail yet. Does it get a lot of use?
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Old 02-27-2013, 11:34 AM
 
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I haven't been over to the West End trail yet. Does it get a lot of use?
I will have to admit I've only been on it once, and that was shortly after it opened.

However, the trail connects directly to Gordon White park.

Let's also not forget that the Southwest Connector trail (another 4.5 miles) started construction last month.


Atlanta BeltLine Access - Gordon White Park.mov - YouTube
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Old 02-27-2013, 11:37 AM
 
Location: Des Moines, IA (Altoona)
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Where are the best walking trails in ATL? Are there trails that go from Midtown to Alpharetta?
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Old 02-27-2013, 11:42 AM
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However, the trail connects directly to Gordon White park.

Let's also not forget that the Southwest Connector trail (another 4.5 miles) started construction last month.


Atlanta BeltLine Access - Gordon White Park.mov - YouTube
It connects to the Park from where? The video depicts it as nothing more than a slightly widened roadside sidewalk, and it doesn't really say where it goes or what's a good way to access the trail.

Glad to hear constructions is in progress. I see a lot of potential in that area.
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Old 02-27-2013, 12:09 PM
 
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It connects to the Park from where? The video depicts it as nothing more than a slightly widened roadside sidewalk, and it doesn't really say where it goes or what's a good way to access the trail.
It's right across from the Citicenter Kroger.

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Gordo...11,184.14,,0,0
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