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Old 10-29-2013, 05:25 AM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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I totally agree. The beltline, yes, bike lanes, no no no!...no one uses them in our neighborhood. The city took an entire lane that belonged to cars and gave it to bikes. I have yet to see a bike in this lane. I am sorry, but the only people who can ride bikes around town are (a very few) commuters and singles. The elderly, the disabled, and parents with young kids, or just parents running errands--sorry, it doesn't work. So you inconvenience everyone in a car so that the tiny minority who can ride a bike where they are going can have a lane? Give them a path somewhere but please don't take the lanes needed for automobiles. If you don't want a car, move to midtown or NYC. Bike Lanes = Political correctness gone amuck.
Finally a reasonable post. Some people live in an unrealistic green hippie utopia.
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Old 10-29-2013, 07:11 AM
 
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Finally a reasonable post. Some people live in an unrealistic green hippie utopia.
Why do you use the term hippie as if it's derogatory? I've seen you use it that way several times now. Let's please debate without making jabs at perceived cultural differences, irrelevant as they are.
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Old 10-29-2013, 07:39 AM
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Finally a reasonable post. Some people live in an unrealistic green hippie utopia.
Reasonable apparently means histrionic now.
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Old 10-29-2013, 07:53 AM
 
Location: Kirkwood
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I just wonder if we get much bang for the buck with bike lanes. Even if we multiplied the number of riders by 10 you'd still just be serving a relative handful of people.
How much does it really cost to paint a strip on a lane? Its not like Atlanta is building bicycle signals and bicycle boxes.
Confidence is a huge hurdle to overcome when starting to commute on a bike. You must remember to always stay to the right, unless turning left, and even then be careful and use hand signals. You just gotta hang on and ride straight. Always be looking for the driver not looking at you. I always make eye contact with a driver, that way I know they saw me.
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Old 10-29-2013, 09:44 AM
 
Location: NW Atlanta
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Finally a reasonable post. Some people live in an unrealistic green hippie utopia.
You mean the idea that the development of suburban auto-oriented sprawl coupled with the decimation of urban areas to favor the car would work? Because that certainly is a unrealistic "utopia."
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Old 10-29-2013, 09:48 AM
 
Location: Kirkwood
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Maybe this could be why investing in bike infrastructure is so important: The U.S. Cities Where the Fewest Commuters Get to Work By Car - Emily Badger - The Atlantic Cities
Atlanta ranks 15th in fewest commuters by car.
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Old 10-29-2013, 10:30 AM
 
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How much does it really cost to paint a strip on a lane? Its not like Atlanta is building bicycle signals and bicycle boxes.
Confidence is a huge hurdle to overcome when starting to commute on a bike. You must remember to always stay to the right, unless turning left, and even then be careful and use hand signals. You just gotta hang on and ride straight. Always be looking for the driver not looking at you. I always make eye contact with a driver, that way I know they saw me.
I'm okay with bike lanes in the areas where there's a substantial number of bike commuters.

For example, maybe areas with a bike score of at least 60 or so. There's a chart here and you can click on the Bike Score column to sort the rankings.

http://www.walkscore.com/GA/Atlanta#hood-ranks

But do areas like Capitol View Manor, Whittier Mill Village or Tuxedo Park -- with scores in the low 30s -- justify bike lanes?
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Old 10-29-2013, 10:33 AM
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I'm okay with bike lanes in the areas where there's a substantial number of bike commuters.

For example, maybe areas with a bike score of at least 60 or so. There's a chart here and you can click on the Bike Score column to sort the rankings.

http://www.walkscore.com/GA/Atlanta#hood-ranks

But do areas like Capitol View Manor, Whittier Mill Village or Tuxedo Park -- with scores in the low 30s -- justify bike lanes?
I don't know what their methodology is, but Cabbagetown having a 58 bike score invalidates that whole list. Should be more like high 80s.

I agree with you, however, that bike lanes should be added where they will get the most use. Is that not what the plan calls for?
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Old 10-29-2013, 11:02 AM
 
Location: Kirkwood
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I'm okay with bike lanes in the areas where there's a substantial number of bike commuters.

For example, maybe areas with a bike score of at least 60 or so. There's a chart here and you can click on the Bike Score column to sort the rankings.

http://www.walkscore.com/GA/Atlanta#hood-ranks

But do areas like Capitol View Manor, Whittier Mill Village or Tuxedo Park -- with scores in the low 30s -- justify bike lanes?
If the residents want them, then yes.
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Old 10-29-2013, 11:15 AM
 
Location: Atlanta
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If the residents want them, then yes.
Also wouldn't bike lanes in theory increase the bike score?The bikes lanes issue is pretty complex when it involves taking away lanes. It's not as easy as just throwing bike lanes on every super busy road, or not putting them in at all anywhere. There's always pros and cons. While it's nice in theory it doesn't always work, but I'm all for different transportation modes and have just started biking to work actually. Any suggestions on an easy route from downtown to midtown? Like 8th and Piedmont/Myrtle to the Luckie and Cone? I've been staying the in the east midtown neighborhoods til 4th to avoid busy streets, but it's not easy after that.
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